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From: Robert Spanjaard on 15 Jan 2010 16:52 On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:28:31 -0800, Savageduck wrote: >> I did a six-tenths motoring trip up South Grade Road to the S-6/7 >> junction, took a pause at 22034 County Highway S-7 to appreciate the >> scenery prior to exciting descent to Lake Henshaw, Dudley's Bakery in >> Santa Ysabel, and the Lake Cuyamaca twisties. >> >> While stopped I made a hundred-fifty or so exposures with my Canon >> EOS-5D through the Canon 24-70 2.8L and 70-200 2.8L IS lenses. Then >> everything went dark. After pushing all of what I thought were >> appropriate buttons with no relief, I took off the lens and the mirror >> fell out on the ground. Uh-oh. Bad news. > > >> ================== >> >> These are three of the last images made before the lights went out >> (motorcycle rider leaves roadwork crew behind as he zooms up South >> Grade Road, then meets oncoming traffic; Mustang poised for part two) : >> >> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2744/4260881735_89b4f99f36_o.jpg >> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4006/4260881833_fd3f736759_o.jpg >> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4047/4260881611_3db369eea6_o.jpg > > Sorry to hear of your unpleasant surprise, but I am glad they are taking > the appropriate action to make things right. They only fix the camera. You could say that that's all they can do, but IMO it's a long way from making things right. They can't give back the shots you missed because of their design error and lousy testing. -- Regards, Robert http://www.arumes.com
From: rwalker on 15 Jan 2010 16:52 On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:28:31 -0800, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote: >On 2010-01-15 11:06:32 -0800, "Frank ess" <frank(a)fshe2fs.com> said: > >> I did a six-tenths motoring trip up South Grade Road to the S-6/7 >> junction, took a pause at 22034 County Highway S-7 to appreciate the >> scenery prior to exciting descent to Lake Henshaw, Dudley's Bakery in >> Santa Ysabel, and the Lake Cuyamaca twisties. >> >> While stopped I made a hundred-fifty or so exposures with my Canon >> EOS-5D through the Canon 24-70 2.8L and 70-200 2.8L IS lenses. Then >> everything went dark. After pushing all of what I thought were >> appropriate buttons with no relief, I took off the lens and the mirror >> fell out on the ground. Uh-oh. Bad news. > > >> ================== >> >> These are three of the last images made before the lights went out >> (motorcycle rider leaves roadwork crew behind as he zooms up South >> Grade Road, then meets oncoming traffic; Mustang poised for part two) : >> >> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2744/4260881735_89b4f99f36_o.jpg >> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4006/4260881833_fd3f736759_o.jpg >> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4047/4260881611_3db369eea6_o.jpg >> >> Cheers, > >Sorry to hear of your unpleasant surprise, but I am glad they are >taking the appropriate action to make things right. > >Regarding your 3 shots, that looks like one of our many burn areas, and >we can only hope they don't have too many slide problems if the >predicted storms and rain come in next week. > >As for the Mustang convertible, you might be giving too much away to >our Eastern cousins with regard to Winter in Southern California. :-) Why, it's a perfectly beautiful 37 degrees (F) in upstate NY today. We're having a heat wave.
From: Savageduck on 15 Jan 2010 17:04 On 2010-01-15 13:52:27 -0800, rwalker <rwalker(a)despammed.com> said: > On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:28:31 -0800, Savageduck > <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote: > >> On 2010-01-15 11:06:32 -0800, "Frank ess" <frank(a)fshe2fs.com> said: >> >>> I did a six-tenths motoring trip up South Grade Road to the S-6/7 >>> junction, took a pause at 22034 County Highway S-7 to appreciate the >>> scenery prior to exciting descent to Lake Henshaw, Dudley's Bakery in >>> Santa Ysabel, and the Lake Cuyamaca twisties. >>> >>> While stopped I made a hundred-fifty or so exposures with my Canon >>> EOS-5D through the Canon 24-70 2.8L and 70-200 2.8L IS lenses. Then >>> everything went dark. After pushing all of what I thought were >>> appropriate buttons with no relief, I took off the lens and the mirror >>> fell out on the ground. Uh-oh. Bad news. >> >> >>> ================== >>> >>> These are three of the last images made before the lights went out >>> (motorcycle rider leaves roadwork crew behind as he zooms up South >>> Grade Road, then meets oncoming traffic; Mustang poised for part two) : >>> >>> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2744/4260881735_89b4f99f36_o.jpg >>> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4006/4260881833_fd3f736759_o.jpg >>> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4047/4260881611_3db369eea6_o.jpg >>> >>> Cheers, >> >> Sorry to hear of your unpleasant surprise, but I am glad they are >> taking the appropriate action to make things right. >> >> Regarding your 3 shots, that looks like one of our many burn areas, and >> we can only hope they don't have too many slide problems if the >> predicted storms and rain come in next week. >> >> As for the Mustang convertible, you might be giving too much away to >> our Eastern cousins with regard to Winter in Southern California. :-) > > > Why, it's a perfectly beautiful 37 degrees (F) in upstate NY today. > We're having a heat wave. Aah! Balmy Upstate NY, I remember my days in Syracuse, Utica and Inlet with nostalgic thoughts of the snow shovel. 37�F, you need to fire up the the AC. -- Regards, Savageduck
From: Frank ess on 15 Jan 2010 19:07 Robert Spanjaard wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:28:31 -0800, Savageduck wrote: > >>> I did a six-tenths motoring trip up South Grade Road to the S-6/7 >>> junction, took a pause at 22034 County Highway S-7 to appreciate >>> the scenery prior to exciting descent to Lake Henshaw, Dudley's >>> Bakery in Santa Ysabel, and the Lake Cuyamaca twisties. >>> >>> While stopped I made a hundred-fifty or so exposures with my Canon >>> EOS-5D through the Canon 24-70 2.8L and 70-200 2.8L IS lenses. >>> Then everything went dark. After pushing all of what I thought >>> were appropriate buttons with no relief, I took off the lens and >>> the mirror fell out on the ground. Uh-oh. Bad news. >> >> >>> ================== >>> >>> These are three of the last images made before the lights went out >>> (motorcycle rider leaves roadwork crew behind as he zooms up South >>> Grade Road, then meets oncoming traffic; Mustang poised for part >>> two) : >>> >>> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2744/4260881735_89b4f99f36_o.jpg >>> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4006/4260881833_fd3f736759_o.jpg >>> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4047/4260881611_3db369eea6_o.jpg >> >> Sorry to hear of your unpleasant surprise, but I am glad they are >> taking the appropriate action to make things right. > > They only fix the camera. You could say that that's all they can > do, but IMO it's a long way from making things right. They can't > give back the shots you missed because of their design error and > lousy testing. You're correct in one aspect: there is a difference between no failure at all and correcting the failed condition. According to what I read about this problem, it's a matter of inferior glue that loses its stick-to-it-iveness over time, and maybe as a result of heat and humidity. There isn't much humidity where the camera has been for the past four or five years, and I've always done what I could to avoid excessive heat, both for me and for the camera. It's not easy to test for the effects of aging at the scale required by a market that evolves at the rate of this one. I'd guess one of Canon's suppliers wasn't careful about the glue they shipped. Maybe just one batch; I don't get the impression that every one of the 5Ds has had this unstuck mirror thing happen. I didn't miss any shots: the always-present backup 20D worked as well as it always does. Even if I /did/ miss some, they probably weren't much good, anyway. For my uses, the real advantage of the 5D over the 20D is that I can be a sloppier framer, thus preserving a larger percentage of the images. My cars have ABS and Traction Control, as well. No run-flat spares, though. -- Frank ess
From: Ray Fischer on 15 Jan 2010 22:58
Robert Spanjaard <spamtrap(a)arumes.com> wrote: >On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:28:31 -0800, Savageduck wrote: > >>> I did a six-tenths motoring trip up South Grade Road to the S-6/7 >>> junction, took a pause at 22034 County Highway S-7 to appreciate the >>> scenery prior to exciting descent to Lake Henshaw, Dudley's Bakery in >>> Santa Ysabel, and the Lake Cuyamaca twisties. >>> >>> While stopped I made a hundred-fifty or so exposures with my Canon >>> EOS-5D through the Canon 24-70 2.8L and 70-200 2.8L IS lenses. Then >>> everything went dark. After pushing all of what I thought were >>> appropriate buttons with no relief, I took off the lens and the mirror >>> fell out on the ground. Uh-oh. Bad news. >> >> >>> ================== >>> >>> These are three of the last images made before the lights went out >>> (motorcycle rider leaves roadwork crew behind as he zooms up South >>> Grade Road, then meets oncoming traffic; Mustang poised for part two) : >>> >>> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2744/4260881735_89b4f99f36_o.jpg >>> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4006/4260881833_fd3f736759_o.jpg >>> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4047/4260881611_3db369eea6_o.jpg >> >> Sorry to hear of your unpleasant surprise, but I am glad they are taking >> the appropriate action to make things right. > >They only fix the camera. You could say that that's all they can do, but >IMO it's a long way from making things right. They can't give back the >shots you missed because of their design error and lousy testing. They were probably all crappy photos anyway. -- Ray Fischer rfischer(a)sonic.net |