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From: BURT on 6 May 2010 19:40
On May 6, 4:02 pm, xxein <xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> On May 6, 2:30 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 5, 7:30 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 5, 3:28 pm, xxein <xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 5, 3:03 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > At the creation of speed by acceleration there is a detectable weight
> > > > > fluctuation of mass which allows you by measurment to detect any speed
> > > > > created.
>
> > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > xxein:  WRONG.  You are measuring a mass and it's momentum to your
> > > > measuring position.  mv.  Weight is not a physical term.  It is only a
> > > > relation only to the measurer - subject to more conditions than you
> > > > can describe.
>
> > > > It (weight, mv) is only relative to an observer in a 'rest state'.
> > > > Good luck on finding that!
>
> > > > Have you found such a place in this universe?
>
> > > Weight has physical existence as a property of mass changing motion.
> > > You can set up a test mass to measure your acceleration and calculate
> > > your end speed. This is how we will create the cosmic speedometer on a
> > > ship  when we go to the stars.
>
> > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Weight makes the beginning of new speed creation detectable and
> > measurable.
>
> > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> xxein:  Let me clarify something for you, others and my own sake.  I
> don't want people to think that acceleration is by any means a
> 'weight'.  It is not.  You can jump on a scale and it will breifly
> read high.  Then it will settle down to mv.  In a constant state, it
> does not measure acceleration.  It measures mv.
>
> What is mv for this?  It is a mass that has the inherent property of
> being 'caused' to go in a certain direction.  M*c^2/r^2.  Gravity.
> That is acceleration.  (2*M*c^2/r)^.5 is the velocity.  It is this
> that a common scale measures as weight of a mass.
>
> Iow, a mass that doesn't appear to move in our position in gravity,
> still shows mv to move according to the gravity against the non-moving
> scale that we call at rest on a surface.
>
> Assume the same scale.  If the Earth were 2R with the same m or M, you
> would weigh 1/sqrt(2) of what you weigh now.  .5R gives you sqrt(2) as
> a weight.  It is a constant with each position in gravity (mv).
>
> Acceleration causes velocity but velocity is what we measure on a
> scale.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Acceleration is a creation of motion or speed that is always
detectable by its fluctuation of weight in the opposite direction.
This is the way to have a speedometer in space.

Mitch Raemsch
From: Don Stockbauer on 7 May 2010 09:48
On May 6, 6:40 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 6, 4:02 pm, xxein <xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 6, 2:30 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 5, 7:30 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 5, 3:28 pm, xxein <xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 5, 3:03 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > At the creation of speed by acceleration there is a detectable weight
> > > > > > fluctuation of mass which allows you by measurment to detect any speed
> > > > > > created.
>
> > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > > xxein:  WRONG.  You are measuring a mass and it's momentum to your
> > > > > measuring position.  mv.  Weight is not a physical term.  It is only a
> > > > > relation only to the measurer - subject to more conditions than you
> > > > > can describe.
>
> > > > > It (weight, mv) is only relative to an observer in a 'rest state'..
> > > > > Good luck on finding that!
>
> > > > > Have you found such a place in this universe?
>
> > > > Weight has physical existence as a property of mass changing motion..
> > > > You can set up a test mass to measure your acceleration and calculate
> > > > your end speed. This is how we will create the cosmic speedometer on a
> > > > ship  when we go to the stars.
>
> > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Weight makes the beginning of new speed creation detectable and
> > > measurable.
>
> > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > xxein:  Let me clarify something for you, others and my own sake.  I
> > don't want people to think that acceleration is by any means a
> > 'weight'.  It is not.  You can jump on a scale and it will breifly
> > read high.  Then it will settle down to mv.  In a constant state, it
> > does not measure acceleration.  It measures mv.
>
> > What is mv for this?  It is a mass that has the inherent property of
> > being 'caused' to go in a certain direction.  M*c^2/r^2.  Gravity.
> > That is acceleration.  (2*M*c^2/r)^.5 is the velocity.  It is this
> > that a common scale measures as weight of a mass.
>
> > Iow, a mass that doesn't appear to move in our position in gravity,
> > still shows mv to move according to the gravity against the non-moving
> > scale that we call at rest on a surface.
>
> > Assume the same scale.  If the Earth were 2R with the same m or M, you
> > would weigh 1/sqrt(2) of what you weigh now.  .5R gives you sqrt(2) as
> > a weight.  It is a constant with each position in gravity (mv).
>
> > Acceleration causes velocity but velocity is what we measure on a
> > scale.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Acceleration is a creation of motion or speed that is always
> detectable by its fluctuation of weight in the opposite direction.
> This is the way to have a speedometer in space.
>

No, the best way to have a speedometer in space is to order one from
J.C. Whitney, Space Division.
From: BURT on 7 May 2010 14:36
On May 7, 6:48 am, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 6, 6:40 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 6, 4:02 pm, xxein <xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > On May 6, 2:30 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 5, 7:30 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 5, 3:28 pm, xxein <xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 5, 3:03 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > At the creation of speed by acceleration there is a detectable weight
> > > > > > > fluctuation of mass which allows you by measurment to detect any speed
> > > > > > > created.
>
> > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > > > xxein:  WRONG.  You are measuring a mass and it's momentum to your
> > > > > > measuring position.  mv.  Weight is not a physical term.  It is only a
> > > > > > relation only to the measurer - subject to more conditions than you
> > > > > > can describe.
>
> > > > > > It (weight, mv) is only relative to an observer in a 'rest state'.
> > > > > > Good luck on finding that!
>
> > > > > > Have you found such a place in this universe?
>
> > > > > Weight has physical existence as a property of mass changing motion.
> > > > > You can set up a test mass to measure your acceleration and calculate
> > > > > your end speed. This is how we will create the cosmic speedometer on a
> > > > > ship  when we go to the stars.
>
> > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > Weight makes the beginning of new speed creation detectable and
> > > > measurable.
>
> > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > xxein:  Let me clarify something for you, others and my own sake.  I
> > > don't want people to think that acceleration is by any means a
> > > 'weight'.  It is not.  You can jump on a scale and it will breifly
> > > read high.  Then it will settle down to mv.  In a constant state, it
> > > does not measure acceleration.  It measures mv.
>
> > > What is mv for this?  It is a mass that has the inherent property of
> > > being 'caused' to go in a certain direction.  M*c^2/r^2.  Gravity..
> > > That is acceleration.  (2*M*c^2/r)^.5 is the velocity.  It is this
> > > that a common scale measures as weight of a mass.
>
> > > Iow, a mass that doesn't appear to move in our position in gravity,
> > > still shows mv to move according to the gravity against the non-moving
> > > scale that we call at rest on a surface.
>
> > > Assume the same scale.  If the Earth were 2R with the same m or M, you
> > > would weigh 1/sqrt(2) of what you weigh now.  .5R gives you sqrt(2) as
> > > a weight.  It is a constant with each position in gravity (mv).
>
> > > Acceleration causes velocity but velocity is what we measure on a
> > > scale.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Acceleration is a creation of motion or speed that is always
> > detectable by its fluctuation of weight in the opposite direction.
> > This is the way to have a speedometer in space.
>
> No, the best way to have a speedometer in space is to order one from
> J.C. Whitney, Space Division.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

When accelerating you move through every speed inbewteen until you
arive at an end speed. This math goes down to the infinitely small.

Mitch Raemsch
From: Don Stockbauer on 8 May 2010 19:22
On May 7, 1:36 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 7, 6:48 am, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 6, 6:40 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 6, 4:02 pm, xxein <xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 6, 2:30 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 5, 7:30 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 5, 3:28 pm, xxein <xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 5, 3:03 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > At the creation of speed by acceleration there is a detectable weight
> > > > > > > > fluctuation of mass which allows you by measurment to detect any speed
> > > > > > > > created.
>
> > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > > > > xxein:  WRONG.  You are measuring a mass and it's momentum to your
> > > > > > > measuring position.  mv.  Weight is not a physical term.  It is only a
> > > > > > > relation only to the measurer - subject to more conditions than you
> > > > > > > can describe.
>
> > > > > > > It (weight, mv) is only relative to an observer in a 'rest state'.
> > > > > > > Good luck on finding that!
>
> > > > > > > Have you found such a place in this universe?
>
> > > > > > Weight has physical existence as a property of mass changing motion.
> > > > > > You can set up a test mass to measure your acceleration and calculate
> > > > > > your end speed. This is how we will create the cosmic speedometer on a
> > > > > > ship  when we go to the stars.
>
> > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > Weight makes the beginning of new speed creation detectable and
> > > > > measurable.
>
> > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > xxein:  Let me clarify something for you, others and my own sake.  I
> > > > don't want people to think that acceleration is by any means a
> > > > 'weight'.  It is not.  You can jump on a scale and it will breifly
> > > > read high.  Then it will settle down to mv.  In a constant state, it
> > > > does not measure acceleration.  It measures mv.
>
> > > > What is mv for this?  It is a mass that has the inherent property of
> > > > being 'caused' to go in a certain direction.  M*c^2/r^2.  Gravity.
> > > > That is acceleration.  (2*M*c^2/r)^.5 is the velocity.  It is this
> > > > that a common scale measures as weight of a mass.
>
> > > > Iow, a mass that doesn't appear to move in our position in gravity,
> > > > still shows mv to move according to the gravity against the non-moving
> > > > scale that we call at rest on a surface.
>
> > > > Assume the same scale.  If the Earth were 2R with the same m or M, you
> > > > would weigh 1/sqrt(2) of what you weigh now.  .5R gives you sqrt(2) as
> > > > a weight.  It is a constant with each position in gravity (mv).
>
> > > > Acceleration causes velocity but velocity is what we measure on a
> > > > scale.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Acceleration is a creation of motion or speed that is always
> > > detectable by its fluctuation of weight in the opposite direction.
> > > This is the way to have a speedometer in space.
>
> > No, the best way to have a speedometer in space is to order one from
> > J.C. Whitney, Space Division.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> When accelerating you move through every speed inbewteen until you
> arive at an end speed. This math goes down to the infinitely small.

That's as brilliant as saying "As you travel to city 30 miles away,
you first travel through mile 1, then mile 2, ...and finally mile 30."
From: BURT on 8 May 2010 19:24
On May 8, 4:22 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 7, 1:36 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 7, 6:48 am, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 6, 6:40 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 6, 4:02 pm, xxein <xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 6, 2:30 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 5, 7:30 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 5, 3:28 pm, xxein <xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On May 5, 3:03 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > At the creation of speed by acceleration there is a detectable weight
> > > > > > > > > fluctuation of mass which allows you by measurment to detect any speed
> > > > > > > > > created.
>
> > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > > > > > xxein:  WRONG.  You are measuring a mass and it's momentum to your
> > > > > > > > measuring position.  mv.  Weight is not a physical term..  It is only a
> > > > > > > > relation only to the measurer - subject to more conditions than you
> > > > > > > > can describe.
>
> > > > > > > > It (weight, mv) is only relative to an observer in a 'rest state'.
> > > > > > > > Good luck on finding that!
>
> > > > > > > > Have you found such a place in this universe?
>
> > > > > > > Weight has physical existence as a property of mass changing motion.
> > > > > > > You can set up a test mass to measure your acceleration and calculate
> > > > > > > your end speed. This is how we will create the cosmic speedometer on a
> > > > > > > ship  when we go to the stars.
>
> > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > > Weight makes the beginning of new speed creation detectable and
> > > > > > measurable.
>
> > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > xxein:  Let me clarify something for you, others and my own sake.  I
> > > > > don't want people to think that acceleration is by any means a
> > > > > 'weight'.  It is not.  You can jump on a scale and it will breifly
> > > > > read high.  Then it will settle down to mv.  In a constant state, it
> > > > > does not measure acceleration.  It measures mv.
>
> > > > > What is mv for this?  It is a mass that has the inherent property of
> > > > > being 'caused' to go in a certain direction.  M*c^2/r^2.  Gravity.
> > > > > That is acceleration.  (2*M*c^2/r)^.5 is the velocity.  It is this
> > > > > that a common scale measures as weight of a mass.
>
> > > > > Iow, a mass that doesn't appear to move in our position in gravity,
> > > > > still shows mv to move according to the gravity against the non-moving
> > > > > scale that we call at rest on a surface.
>
> > > > > Assume the same scale.  If the Earth were 2R with the same m or M, you
> > > > > would weigh 1/sqrt(2) of what you weigh now.  .5R gives you sqrt(2) as
> > > > > a weight.  It is a constant with each position in gravity (mv).
>
> > > > > Acceleration causes velocity but velocity is what we measure on a
> > > > > scale.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > Acceleration is a creation of motion or speed that is always
> > > > detectable by its fluctuation of weight in the opposite direction.
> > > > This is the way to have a speedometer in space.
>
> > > No, the best way to have a speedometer in space is to order one from
> > > J.C. Whitney, Space Division.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > When accelerating you move through every speed inbewteen until you
> > arive at an end speed. This math goes down to the infinitely small.
>
> That's as brilliant as saying "As you travel to city 30 miles away,
> you first travel through mile 1, then mile 2, ...and finally mile 30."- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Its like zeno. You pass through every quantity of the infinitely
small.
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