From: PD on 22 Jul 2010 10:58 On Jul 22, 9:38 am, Jacko <jackokr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If the LHC doesn't come up trumps, then the 4 billion plus will be > accounted for in front of the people. Agreed. But rest easy. It will produce lots of physics. > Large civil engineering projects > with no purpose, and which do no serve to further the purpose, are too > expensive to afford. Consequential nuclear > research from things such as the 'Chenobyl decelerator' shall be a > really experimental 'on site living' experience for those into > physics, who wouldn't have to know anything about gravity.
From: Hikaru Masayoshi on 22 Jul 2010 13:58 On Jul 22, 4:00 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 22, 1:37 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 21, 4:05 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 21, 1:26 am, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote: > > > > > But this is obvious- everything has to be > > > > infinitely complex at no matter what > > > > scale, because there can be no smallest. > > > > This is a religious statement. > > > > Thus your claim that the electron is not a point is also an article of > > > faith and has no bearing on any experimental evidence. > > > > > And our own spectrum of photons is not > > > > the only one. There are both > > > > smaller and larger spectra at regular > > > > intervals as one contemplates different > > > > scales. > > > > > Guess what, interminably ego-centric > > > > people- ours is not the only, or best, > > > > *anything* > > > > > john > > > ------------- > > only retarded mathematician > > parrots -can think that > > any particle cam be a point!! > > Y.P > > -------------------- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Only aging bridge engineers would think that absolutely everything > MUST have volume. the science is materialistic, then yes, you just made yourself a disservice please define the consistency of no volume hahahanson, good bye
From: BURT on 22 Jul 2010 15:09 On Jul 22, 7:29 am, bert <herbertglazie...(a)msn.com> wrote: > On Jul 22, 10:19 am, Jacko <jackokr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 22 July, 15:00, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 22, 1:37 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 21, 4:05 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 21, 1:26 am, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > But this is obvious- everything has to be > > > > > > infinitely complex at no matter what > > > > > > scale, because there can be no smallest. > > > > > > This is a religious statement. > > > > > > Thus your claim that the electron is not a point is also an article of > > > > > faith and has no bearing on any experimental evidence. > > > > > > > And our own spectrum of photons is not > > > > > > the only one. There are both > > > > > > smaller and larger spectra at regular > > > > > > intervals as one contemplates different > > > > > > scales. > > > > > > > Guess what, interminably ego-centric > > > > > > people- ours is not the only, or best, > > > > > > *anything* > > > > > > > john > > > > > ------------- > > > > only retarded mathematician > > > > parrots -can think that > > > > any particle cam be a point!! > > > > Y.P > > > > -------------------- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > Only aging bridge engineers would think that absolutely everything > > > MUST have volume.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Yes, bridge engineering... Problem specification: move things from one > > side of a rift to another, bring all ideas and goods in contact with > > all others. Avoid the island mentality, remember the Hitite metal > > incident, and build all needed tools for the job.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > What good is a point(Dot) in the quantum realm It don't fit TreBert- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Space and time are comprised of a cintinuum of the infinitely small and the point quantum fits that. Mitch Raemsch
From: michael michalchik on 25 Jul 2010 15:24 On Jul 21, 11:37 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 21, 4:05 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 21, 1:26 am, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote: > > > > But this is obvious- everything has to be > > > infinitely complex at no matter what > > > scale, because there can be no smallest. > > > This is a religious statement. > > > Thus your claim that the electron is not a point is also an article of > > faith and has no bearing on any experimental evidence. > > > > And our own spectrum of photons is not > > > the only one. There are both > > > smaller and larger spectra at regular > > > intervals as one contemplates different > > > scales. > > > > Guess what, interminably ego-centric > > > people- ours is not the only, or best, > > > *anything* > > > > john > > ------------- > only retarded mathematician > parrots -can think that > any particle cam be a point!! > Y.P > ------------------- Electrons are not points they are probability fields localized around a point that interact with other objects through virtual particle fields in ways that transfer quanta of energy the way a point particle would if it could collide with something.
From: BURT on 25 Jul 2010 16:53 On Jul 25, 12:24 pm, michael michalchik <michael.michalc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 21, 11:37 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 21, 4:05 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 21, 1:26 am, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote: > > > > > But this is obvious- everything has to be > > > > infinitely complex at no matter what > > > > scale, because there can be no smallest. > > > > This is a religious statement. > > > > Thus your claim that the electron is not a point is also an article of > > > faith and has no bearing on any experimental evidence. > > > > > And our own spectrum of photons is not > > > > the only one. There are both > > > > smaller and larger spectra at regular > > > > intervals as one contemplates different > > > > scales. > > > > > Guess what, interminably ego-centric > > > > people- ours is not the only, or best, > > > > *anything* > > > > > john > > > ------------- > > only retarded mathematician > > parrots -can think that > > any particle cam be a point!! > > Y.P > > ------------------- > > Electrons are not points they are probability fields localized around > a point that interact with other objects through virtual particle > fields in ways that transfer quanta of energy the way a point particle > would if it could collide with something.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Electrons are points of energy that quantum mechically vibrate by being pushed by their immaterial quantum waves. Mitch Raemsch
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