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From: Link on 8 Apr 2010 08:34
On Apr 8, 3:03 am, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."
<ostap_bender_1...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 8, 2:59 am, "marty.musa...(a)gmail.com"
>
>
>
>
>
> <me...(a)vzw.blackberry.net> wrote:
> > > On Apr 7, 5:30 pm, Link <marty.musa...(a)gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > The key to cracking any cipher is elephant. Simply
> > > look for consistent
> > > > variable repetition following the form of the word
> > > elephant. There are
> > > > very few words in language that repeat letters in
> > > the pattern of the
> > > > word elephant.
>
> > > > ELEPHANT
>
> > > > 12134567
>
> > > > ANARCHY
>
> > > > ERELATER
>
> > > ERE-what?! And how many E's are there?
>
> > I don't know how many E's there are yet because I don't know what "e" is yet. You are missing the point I fear.
> > The point is it does not matter. What matters is finding the ordered repetition modelling the word then try all letters.
>
> > ERELATER could be a remnant fragment of a continuing sentence of a continuous cipher.
>
> > the example might be [h]"ere later" preceeded by "meet me"
>
> You are way too brilliant for me.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thank you for the compliment, but I insist I am not.


I am just saying, trying to make a simple point about ciphers, that,
by assuming knowledge of the key and acting on it, this is the best
way to decrypt. The numbers of times letters repeat in three letters
being two, as in the beginning three letters of elephant is a great
start.

The word elephant does not actually have to be there. Any of the below
representations could be the word elephant.

E L E P H A N T

M A M O C D T O

T O T I A B C D

The point is you have letter 1, followed by letter 2, then letter 1
again, followed by a continues four unique letters different from the
first three spaces occupied by the first two characters.

Try this method to any language cipher and you may find it is
effective.

Have a great day.

meami.org
From: Link on 8 Apr 2010 08:36
On Apr 8, 5:34 am, Link <marty.musa...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 8, 3:03 am, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."
>
>
>
>
>
> <ostap_bender_1...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 8, 2:59 am, "marty.musa...(a)gmail.com"
>
> > <me...(a)vzw.blackberry.net> wrote:
> > > > On Apr 7, 5:30 pm, Link <marty.musa...(a)gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > The key to cracking any cipher is elephant. Simply
> > > > look for consistent
> > > > > variable repetition following the form of the word
> > > > elephant. There are
> > > > > very few words in language that repeat letters in
> > > > the pattern of the
> > > > > word elephant.
>
> > > > > ELEPHANT
>
> > > > > 12134567
>
> > > > > ANARCHY
>
> > > > > ERELATER
>
> > > > ERE-what?! And how many E's are there?
>
> > > I don't know how many E's there are yet because I don't know what "e" is yet. You are missing the point I fear.
> > > The point is it does not matter. What matters is finding the ordered repetition modelling the word then try all letters.
>
> > > ERELATER could be a remnant fragment of a continuing sentence of a continuous cipher.
>
> > > the example might be [h]"ere later" preceeded by "meet me"
>
> > You are way too brilliant for me.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Thank you for the compliment, but I insist I am not.
>
> I am just saying, trying to make a simple point about ciphers, that,
> by assuming knowledge of the key and acting on it, this is the best
> way to decrypt. The numbers of times letters repeat in three letters
> being two, as in the beginning three letters of elephant is a great
> start.
>
> The word elephant does not actually have to be there. Any of the below
> representations could be the word elephant.
>
>  E L E P H A N T
>
revised: M A M O C D T I
>
>  T O T I A B C D
>
> The point is you have letter 1, followed by letter 2, then letter 1
> again, followed by a continues four unique letters different from the
> first three spaces occupied by the first two characters.
>
> Try this method to any language cipher and you may find it is
> effective.
>
> Have a great day.
>
> meami.org- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Forgive my revision above.
From: Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr. on 9 Apr 2010 07:03
On Apr 8, 5:34 am, Link <marty.musa...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 8, 3:03 am, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."
>
>
>
> <ostap_bender_1...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 8, 2:59 am, "marty.musa...(a)gmail.com"
>
> > <me...(a)vzw.blackberry.net> wrote:
> > > > On Apr 7, 5:30 pm, Link <marty.musa...(a)gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > The key to cracking any cipher is elephant. Simply
> > > > look for consistent
> > > > > variable repetition following the form of the word
> > > > elephant. There are
> > > > > very few words in language that repeat letters in
> > > > the pattern of the
> > > > > word elephant.
>
> > > > > ELEPHANT
>
> > > > > 12134567
>
> > > > > ANARCHY
>
> > > > > ERELATER
>
> > > > ERE-what?! And how many E's are there?
>
> > > I don't know how many E's there are yet because I don't know what "e" is yet. You are missing the point I fear.
> > > The point is it does not matter. What matters is finding the ordered repetition modelling the word then try all letters.
>
> > > ERELATER could be a remnant fragment of a continuing sentence of a continuous cipher.
>
> > > the example might be [h]"ere later" preceeded by "meet me"
>
> > You are way too brilliant for me.
>
> Thank you for the compliment, but I insist I am not.
>
> I am just saying, trying to make a simple point about ciphers, that,
> by assuming knowledge of the key and acting on it, this is the best
> way to decrypt. The numbers of times letters repeat in three letters
> being two, as in the beginning three letters of elephant is a great
> start.
>
> The word elephant does not actually have to be there. Any of the below
> representations could be the word elephant.
>
>  E L E P H A N T
>
>  M A M O C D T O
>
>  T O T I A B C D
>
> The point is you have letter 1, followed by letter 2, then letter 1
> again, followed by a continues four unique letters different from the
> first three spaces occupied by the first two characters.

That's brilliant. Unfortunately for you, the string "ERELATER" does
NOT satisfy your condition. Hint: it has three occurrences of letter
"E".

> Try this method to any language cipher and you may find it is
> effective.

Thank you. Next time I need to decipher what my little daughter writes
to her little sister - I will.
From: Don Stockbauer on 12 Apr 2010 07:33
On Apr 9, 6:03 am, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."
<ostap_bender_1...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 8, 5:34 am, Link <marty.musa...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 8, 3:03 am, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."
>
> > <ostap_bender_1...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Apr 8, 2:59 am, "marty.musa...(a)gmail.com"
>
> > > <me...(a)vzw.blackberry.net> wrote:
> > > > > On Apr 7, 5:30 pm, Link <marty.musa...(a)gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > The key to cracking any cipher is elephant. Simply
> > > > > look for consistent
> > > > > > variable repetition following the form of the word
> > > > > elephant. There are
> > > > > > very few words in language that repeat letters in
> > > > > the pattern of the
> > > > > > word elephant.
>
> > > > > > ELEPHANT
>
> > > > > > 12134567
>
> > > > > > ANARCHY
>
> > > > > > ERELATER
>
> > > > > ERE-what?! And how many E's are there?
>
> > > > I don't know how many E's there are yet because I don't know what "e" is yet. You are missing the point I fear.
> > > > The point is it does not matter. What matters is finding the ordered repetition modelling the word then try all letters.
>
> > > > ERELATER could be a remnant fragment of a continuing sentence of a continuous cipher.
>
> > > > the example might be [h]"ere later" preceeded by "meet me"
>
> > > You are way too brilliant for me.
>
> > Thank you for the compliment, but I insist I am not.
>
> > I am just saying, trying to make a simple point about ciphers, that,
> > by assuming knowledge of the key and acting on it, this is the best
> > way to decrypt. The numbers of times letters repeat in three letters
> > being two, as in the beginning three letters of elephant is a great
> > start.
>
> > The word elephant does not actually have to be there. Any of the below
> > representations could be the word elephant.
>
> >  E L E P H A N T
>
> >  M A M O C D T O
>
> >  T O T I A B C D
>
> > The point is you have letter 1, followed by letter 2, then letter 1
> > again, followed by a continues four unique letters different from the
> > first three spaces occupied by the first two characters.
>
> That's brilliant. Unfortunately for you, the string "ERELATER" does
> NOT satisfy your condition. Hint: it has three occurrences of letter
> "E".
>
> > Try this method to any language cipher and you may find it is
> > effective.
>
> Thank you. Next time I need to decipher what my little daughter writes
> to her little sister - I will.

Better off to work towards creating a world where ciphers aren't
needed.
From: purple on 12 Apr 2010 10:44
On 4/12/2010 6:33 AM, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Apr 9, 6:03 am, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."
> <ostap_bender_1...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 8, 5:34 am, Link<marty.musa...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 8, 3:03 am, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."
>>
>>> <ostap_bender_1...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Apr 8, 2:59 am, "marty.musa...(a)gmail.com"
>>
>>>> <me...(a)vzw.blackberry.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 7, 5:30 pm, Link<marty.musa...(a)gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> The key to cracking any cipher is elephant. Simply
>>>>>> look for consistent
>>>>>>> variable repetition following the form of the word
>>>>>> elephant. There are
>>>>>>> very few words in language that repeat letters in
>>>>>> the pattern of the
>>>>>>> word elephant.
>>
>>>>>>> ELEPHANT
>>
>>>>>>> 12134567
>>
>>>>>>> ANARCHY
>>
>>>>>>> ERELATER
>>
>>>>>> ERE-what?! And how many E's are there?
>>
>>>>> I don't know how many E's there are yet because I don't know what "e" is yet. You are missing the point I fear.
>>>>> The point is it does not matter. What matters is finding the ordered repetition modelling the word then try all letters.
>>
>>>>> ERELATER could be a remnant fragment of a continuing sentence of a continuous cipher.
>>
>>>>> the example might be [h]"ere later" preceeded by "meet me"
>>
>>>> You are way too brilliant for me.
>>
>>> Thank you for the compliment, but I insist I am not.
>>
>>> I am just saying, trying to make a simple point about ciphers, that,
>>> by assuming knowledge of the key and acting on it, this is the best
>>> way to decrypt. The numbers of times letters repeat in three letters
>>> being two, as in the beginning three letters of elephant is a great
>>> start.
>>
>>> The word elephant does not actually have to be there. Any of the below
>>> representations could be the word elephant.
>>
>>> E L E P H A N T
>>
>>> M A M O C D T O
>>
>>> T O T I A B C D
>>
>>> The point is you have letter 1, followed by letter 2, then letter 1
>>> again, followed by a continues four unique letters different from the
>>> first three spaces occupied by the first two characters.
>>
>> That's brilliant. Unfortunately for you, the string "ERELATER" does
>> NOT satisfy your condition. Hint: it has three occurrences of letter
>> "E".
>>
>>> Try this method to any language cipher and you may find it is
>>> effective.
>>
>> Thank you. Next time I need to decipher what my little daughter writes
>> to her little sister - I will.
>
> Better off to work towards creating a world where ciphers aren't
> needed.

When Garfield becomes president your wish will come true!
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