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From: Eric Stevens on 20 Oct 2009 00:19 On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:32:17 -0700 (PDT), sobriquet <dohduhdah(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >On 19 okt, 20:24, "NotMe" <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: >>[..misguided and deluded nonsense snipped..] > >IPR is a figment of your lively imagination. >All people with any understanding of information technology and a >tight budget can simply download everything >for free and pay taxes in compensation for copyright infringement. And how does the creator of the original work survive? Is he employed by the state? Eric Stevens
From: NotMe on 20 Oct 2009 00:21 � 2 0 0 8 a l l r i g h t s r e s e r v e d ; n o p o r t i o n o f t h i s p o s t m a y b e u s e d a n y w h e r e e l s e o r a r c h i v e d w i t h o u t w r i t t e n p e r m i s s i o n X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX18lQqH6R/xwJBMrtGsHg5xcmBTzaMHXdFl4X6fwHDT+bg== X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091019-0, 10/19/2009), Outbound message Cancel-Lock: sha1:BI8mwwq3sett1qD38WMKJClJz9w= X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Xref: news.netfront.net alt.www.webmaster:4838 rec.photo.digital:34549 "Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message news:4add37ee$0$1620$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... : Eric Stevens <eric.stevens(a)sum.co.nz> wrote: : >On 17 Oct 2009 23:17:03 GMT, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: : > : >>Eric Stevens <eric.stevens(a)sum.co.nz> wrote: : >>>On 17 Oct 2009 16:54:15 GMT, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: : >>> : >>>>Alfred Molon <alfred_molon(a)yahoo.com> wrote: : >>>>> Ray Fischer : >>>> : >>>>>> A good reason to avoid Getty like the plague. : >>>>> : >>>>>A good reason not to steal images. : >>>> : >>>>When a company uses that as an excuse to extort ridiculous fines from : >>>>people to employ lawyers then it's a good reason not to do business : >>>>with them. : >>> : >>>The fines only seem ridiculous to the thief. : >> : >>Demanding 10 times the usual fee for a low-res version of the licensable : >>photo isn't ridiculous? : > : >Not when the guy tried to steal it for nothing. : : It must make it very easy for simple people like you to simply assume : that other people are guilty. : The judge was convinced.
From: Ray Fischer on 20 Oct 2009 00:30 Eric Stevens <eric.stevens(a)sum.co.nz> wrote: >On 20 Oct 2009 03:41:57 GMT, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: > >>Eric Stevens <eric.stevens(a)sum.co.nz> wrote: >>>On 18 Oct 2009 18:00:22 GMT, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >>> >>>>NotMe <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: >>>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message >>>>>: Twibil <nowayjose6(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>: >On Oct 17, 4:17 pm, rfisc...(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >>>>>: >> >>>>>: >> >>>>>: >> >The fines only seem ridiculous to the thief. >>>>>: >> >>>>>: >> Demanding 10 times the usual fee for a low-res version of the >>>>>licensable >>>>>: >> photo isn't ridiculous? >>>>>: > >>>>>: >Hmmm. So you think that the thief -or you- should be able to set the >>>>>: >value of an item, and the actual owner shouldn't. >>>>>: >>>>>: The actual owner HAS set a value. They demand far more. It looks >>>>>: like about ten times what the usual licensing fee might be. >>>>> >>>>>Which is quiet typical for any civil court case. One party asks for more >>>>>(sometimes the moon) the other party ask for less usually nothing. The >>>>>court makes a judgment on what equitable. >>>> >>>>"I you don't give us ten times what we charge for the photo then we'll >>>>screw you over for 200 times what the photo is worth." >>>> >>>>But that's what happens when law triumphs over justice. >>> >>>The more you write, the more you sound like a self-righteous thief. >> >>The more you write the more you sound like an immoral goose-stepping >>fascist. > >Calling me names will not make you sound any less of a thief. Calling me names will not make you any less of an immoral goose-stepping fascist. -- Ray Fischer rfischer(a)sonic.net
From: NotMe on 20 Oct 2009 00:35 � 2 0 0 8 a l l r i g h t s r e s e r v e d ; n o p o r t i o n o f t h i s p o s t m a y b e u s e d a n y w h e r e e l s e o r a r c h i v e d w i t h o u t w r i t t e n p e r m i s s i o n X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1+2eXdvMGrq29bwSiQc+NG1TCVWTVi2ASLWWzRSELv73w== X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 091019-0, 10/19/2009), Outbound message Cancel-Lock: sha1:PvzRIO10Irfs40AoAX00lvD2LzE= X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Xref: news.netfront.net alt.www.webmaster:4841 rec.photo.digital:34555 "Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message news:4add3d27$0$1668$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... : NotMe <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: : >"Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message : >: Eric Stevens <eric.stevens(a)sum.co.nz> wrote: : >: >On 17 Oct 2009 23:17:03 GMT, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: : >: > : >: >>Eric Stevens <eric.stevens(a)sum.co.nz> wrote: : >: >>>On 17 Oct 2009 16:54:15 GMT, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: : >: >>> : >: >>>>Alfred Molon <alfred_molon(a)yahoo.com> wrote: : >: >>>>> Ray Fischer : >: >>>> : >: >>>>>> A good reason to avoid Getty like the plague. : >: >>>>> : >: >>>>>A good reason not to steal images. : >: >>>> : >: >>>>When a company uses that as an excuse to extort ridiculous fines from : >: >>>>people to employ lawyers then it's a good reason not to do business : >: >>>>with them. : >: >>> : >: >>>The fines only seem ridiculous to the thief. : >: >> : >: >>Demanding 10 times the usual fee for a low-res version of the licensable : >: >>photo isn't ridiculous? : >: > : >: >Not when the guy tried to steal it for nothing. : >: : >: It must make it very easy for simple people like you to simply assume : >: that other people are guilty. : > : >The judge was convinced. : : Wrong. Guilt doesn't come into play in civil cases. Obviously not much experience in the legal world or with semantics.
From: sobriquet on 20 Oct 2009 06:54
On 20 okt, 06:12, Eric Stevens <eric.stev...(a)sum.co.nz> wrote: > On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 03:52:33 -0700 (PDT), sobriquet > > > > > > <dohduh...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >On 19 okt, 10:26, Eric Stevens <eric.stev...(a)sum.co.nz> wrote: > >> On 18 Oct 2009 18:00:22 GMT, rfisc...(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: > > >> >NotMe <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: > >> >>"Ray Fischer" <rfisc...(a)sonic.net> wrote in message > >> >>: Twibil <nowayjo...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>: >On Oct 17, 4:17 pm, rfisc...(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: > >> >>: >> > >> >>: >> > >> >>: >> >The fines only seem ridiculous to the thief. > >> >>: >> > >> >>: >> Demanding 10 times the usual fee for a low-res version of the > >> >>licensable > >> >>: >> photo isn't ridiculous? > >> >>: > > >> >>: >Hmmm. So you think that the thief -or you- should be able to set the > >> >>: >value of an item, and the actual owner shouldn't. > >> >>: > >> >>: The actual owner HAS set a value. They demand far more. It looks > >> >>: like about ten times what the usual licensing fee might be. > > >> >>Which is quiet typical for any civil court case. One party asks for more > >> >>(sometimes the moon) the other party ask for less usually nothing. The > >> >>court makes a judgment on what equitable. > > >> >"I you don't give us ten times what we charge for the photo then we'll > >> >screw you over for 200 times what the photo is worth." > > >> >But that's what happens when law triumphs over justice. > > >> The more you write, the more you sound like a self-righteous thief. > > >> Eric Stevens > > >You sound like a fascist cockroach. > > Calling me names will not alter the situation. > > Eric Stevens Suggesting people who share and exchange information are thieves isn't achieving anything either. So perhaps if you refrain from the thievery accusations, people like me will refrain from calling you names. |