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From: mpc755 on 7 Apr 2010 09:31 On Apr 7, 8:58 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > On Apr 5, 8:52 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear mpc755: I gave you a very big hint to take you G. D. discussions > of C-60 crystals (NOT molecules) to your own post. Not only do you > know nothing about interference, you have no ability to realize when > an experiment, like you keep harping about, was simply screwed up. > You are one of those stone-heads who like to argue: "How man fairies > can dance on the head of a pin?" Give up that argument, unless you > are one of those dancing on the head of the pin. NoEinstein > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. Aether is displaced by matter. Displacement creates pressure. Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter.
From: mpc755 on 7 Apr 2010 09:37 On Apr 7, 9:09 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > On Apr 5, 9:05 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear mpc755: You are a FLAKE in the same league with those who believe > in... string theory. For your information (and you need a lot of it, > since 99% of your science is wrong), no ether has ever formed an > interference pattern. Only light RAYS can do so. And there is no > method on Earth for emitting single photons at a time. If one could > do so, no single photon would interfere. You don't have the brain to > justify my trying to edify you about how science actually works. I > will be registering your long repeat copies about the C-60 garbage as > SPAM. Take your SPAM elsewhere, or SHOVE IT! NE > 'Waveparticle duality of C60 molecules' http://www.julianvossandreae.com/Work/C60article/c60article.pdf "Here we report the observation of de Broglie wave interference of C60 molecules by diffraction at a material absorption grating." A C-60 molecule is in the slit(s). While the C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed at the exits to the slits. When there are detectors at the exits to the slits the C-60 molecule is always detected exiting a single slit. If the detectors are placed and removed from the exits to the slits while the C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) the C-60 molecule creates an interference pattern. Explain how this is possible without aether. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_de_Broglie "This research culminated in the de Broglie hypothesis stating that any moving particle or object had an associated wave." 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory Louis de BROGLIE' http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case of an external field acting on the particle." "This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is located." de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of the wave. In AD, the external field is the aether. In a double slit experiment the particle occupies a very small region of the wave and enters and exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits the available slits. In AD, the C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit while the associated aether displacement wave enters and exits the available slits. The displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and there is no interference.
From: NoEinstein on 8 Apr 2010 10:22 On Apr 7, 8:58 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > Make that... How MANY fairies can dance on the head of a pin? mpc755, apparently, is one of them. NoEinstein > > On Apr 5, 8:52 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear mpc755: I gave you a very big hint to take you G. D. discussions > of C-60 crystals (NOT molecules) to your own post. Not only do you > know nothing about interference, you have no ability to realize when > an experiment, like you keep harping about, was simply screwed up. > You are one of those stone-heads who like to argue: "How man fairies > can dance on the head of a pin?" Give up that argument, unless you > are one of those dancing on the head of the pin. NoEinstein > > > > > > > On Apr 5, 7:46 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > on the wayside, if > > > you are really going to set so much store in a two-hole procedure > > > for fullerenes, maybe you shouold read the original article, and > > > try to question its purpose. as it is, I'd guess that > > > English is not your mother-tongue, > > > which can sometimes prove difficult in *using* it; so, > > > that's why I always suggest Shakespeare, becuase > > > *no* one can *begin* to comprehend English, > > > til he *tries* to read the bard. (he also had a hand > > > in translating the KJV of the Bible .-) > > > > > The C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit while the > > > > thus: > > > NB, quaternions are not "quadrays" (for an amateur attempt > > > at homogenous co-ordination), but you can "do" special rel. > > > with them (according to Lanczos .-) > > > A C-60 molecule is in the slit(s). While the C-60 molecule is in the > > slit(s) detectors are placed at the exits to the slits. When there are > > detectors at the exits to the slits the C-60 molecule is always > > detected exiting a single slit. If the detectors are placed and > > removed from the exits to the slits while the C-60 molecule is in the > > slit(s) the C-60 molecule creates an interference pattern. > > > Explain how this is possible without aether. > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_de_Broglie > > > "This research culminated in the de Broglie hypothesis stating that > > any moving particle or object had an associated wave." > > > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics > > by the double solution theory > > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf > > > "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the > > wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case > > of an external field acting on the particle." > > > "This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present > > theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave > > where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite > > natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always > > be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is > > located." > > > de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave > > and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of > > the wave. > > > In AD, the external field is the aether. In a double slit experiment > > the particle occupies a very small region of the wave and enters and > > exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits the available slits. > > > In AD, the C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. > > The C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit while the > > associated aether displacement wave enters and exits the available > > slits. The displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the > > slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting > > the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the associated aether > > displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and there is no > > interference. > > > Experiments which will provide evidence of Aether Displacement: > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experi... > > > Experiment #1: > > > Instead of having a single beam splitter BSc have two beam splitters > > BSca and BScb. Have the photons reflected by mirror Ma interact with > > BSca and have the photons reflected by mirror Mb interact with BScb. > > Do not combine the red and blue paths. Have additional detectors D1a, > > D2a, D1b, and D2b. Have the photons reflected by and propagate through > > BSca be detected at D1a and D2a. Have the photons reflected by and > > propagate through BScb be detected at D1b and D2b. If you compare the > > photons detected at D1a and D1b with the photons detected at D0, the > > corresponding photons detected at D0 will form an interference > > pattern. If you compare the photons detected at D2a and D2b with the > > photons detected at D0, the corresponding photons detected at D0 will > > form an interference pattern. What is occurring is all 'up' photons > > are being detected at one pair of detectors, for example D1a and D1b, > > and all 'down' photons are being detected at the other pair of > > detectors, for example D2a and D2b. Interference patterns do not even > > need to be created in order to 'go back' and determine the > > interference patterns created at D0. > > > Experiment #2: > > > Alter the experiment. When the downgraded photon pair are created, > > have each photon interact with its own double slit apparatus. Have > > detectors at one of the exits for each double slit apparatus. When a > > photon is detected at one of the exits, in AD, the photon's aether > > wave still exists and is propagating along the path exiting the other > > slit. When a photon is not detected at one of the exits, the photon > > 'particle' along with its associated aether wave exits the other slit. > > Combine the path the aether wave the detected photon is propagating > > along with the path of the other photon and its associated aether > > wave. An interference pattern will still be created. This shows the > > aether wave of a detected photon still exists and is able to create > > interference with the aether wave of another photon, altering the > > direction the photon 'particle' travels.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: mpc755 on 8 Apr 2010 19:18 On Apr 8, 10:22 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > On Apr 7, 8:58 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > Make that... How MANY fairies can dance on the head of a pin? > mpc755, apparently, is one of them. NoEinstein > 'Waveparticle duality of C60 molecules' http://www.julianvossandreae.com/Work/C60article/c60article.pdf "Here we report the observation of de Broglie wave interference of C60 molecules by diffraction at a material absorption grating." A C-60 molecule is in the slit(s). While the C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed at the exits to the slits. When there are detectors at the exits to the slits the C-60 molecule is always detected exiting a single slit. If the detectors are placed and removed from the exits to the slits while the C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) the C-60 molecule creates an interference pattern. Explain how this is possible without aether. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_de_Broglie "This research culminated in the de Broglie hypothesis stating that any moving particle or object had an associated wave." 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory Louis de BROGLIE' http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case of an external field acting on the particle." "This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is located." de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of the wave. In AD, the external field is the aether. In a double slit experiment the particle occupies a very small region of the wave and enters and exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits the available slits. In AD, the C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit while the associated aether displacement wave enters and exits the available slits. The displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and there is no interference.
From: spudnik on 8 Apr 2010 19:43
hey -- don't top-post! > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - thus: hey, we are wasting time with mister Burt-on. thus quoth: the 200-pound space suit was added to the weight of the astronaut, the gravitational load on the skeletal system could prevent serious bone loss. But for those who were not outside the spacecraft, some reconditioning was necessary, after long stays on http://21stcenturysciencetech.com/ > The 'particle' occupies a very small region of the aether wave. thus: there is no fourth axis that is orthogonal to the three orthogonal axes of space (at least, not at the same origin, and probably not at all isometric). > The best model uses the minimum number of orthogonals thus: cartesianism can be problematic, but that does not make the L-transformation into its antimatter ... unless you throw Schroedinger's joke-cat from the train -- y'know, the Doppler effect? you *can* "do" special & general relativity in trilinear coordinates, but you don't have to!... like, that is what Minkowski's phase-space is, essentially; esp. with quaternions. thus: also, apply the formularium to an actual glass house, say, at a particular lattitude (south of the equator, you won;t always be able to use Polaris .-) thus: c^2 is a great constant to work with; how do you feel about C^2 seconds-per-meter^2 ?? actually c times the second-root of two has already been used as a factor, by Weber & in a very elementary exposition (or, it is supposed to be, in German). thnks for the prima donna soto voce; that really means a lot to me ... zzzz. now, I say, "second root" and second-power, because it has nothing in oarticular to do with The Tetragon. (well, may haps, the *skew* tetragon .-) thus: detrend this; all gasses are glass house gasses, but not at the same window of opening or closing. if you're going to use the Farmer's Almanac for a one-year futures, that's fine with me but I don't care!... I, myself etc. can't do the math, except in tripolars ... when I can configure them! --Light: A History! http://wlym.com http://21stcenturysciencetech.com http://white-smoke.wetpaint.com |