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From: mpc755 on 2 May 2010 21:21 On May 2, 4:24 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > On Apr 26, 10:54 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear mpc755: "Wrong is WRONG, no matter who said it!" NoEinstein > You have your own definition of 'aether drag' which is different than what is generally accepted. 'Aether drag' is in reference to the interaction of aether and matter. The subsequent effect is the effect 'aether drag' has on light. The pressure exerted by the aether in nearby regions towards the matter doing the displacing is described, weakly, as "space effectively flows towards matter". Aether and matter are different states of the same material. Aether is displaced by matter. Displacement creates pressure. Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter. Gravitation, the 'Dark Matter' Effect and the Fine Structure Constant http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0401047 "There we see the first arguments that indicate the logical necessity for quantum behaviour, at both the spatial level and at the matter level. There space is, at one of the lowest levels, a quantumfoam system undergoing ongoing classicalisation. That model suggest that gravity is caused by matter changing the processing rate of the informational system that manifests as space, and as a consequence space effectively flows towards matter. However this is not a flow of some form of matter through space, as previously considered in the aether models or in the random particulate Le Sage kinetic theory of gravity, rather the flow is an ongoing rearrangement of the quantum-foam patterns that form space, and indeed only have a geometrical description at a coarse-grained level. Then the flow in one region is relative only to the patterns in nearby regions, and not relative to some a priori background geometrical space" What is described as "space effectively flows towards matter" is the pressure exerted by the aether towards the matter. "Then the flow in one region is relative only to the patterns in nearby regions" is the pressure exerted by the aether in nearby regions displaced by the matter.
From: NoEinstein on 3 May 2010 00:25 On May 1, 10:06 pm, Timo Nieminen <t...(a)physics.uq.edu.au> wrote: > Dear Timo: There is a black-hole-like power in "playing" stupid. I explain things, expertly. But the stupid (perhaps including... you) can keep playing dumb and yanking my chain. They let their limited knowledge and reasoning ability be a measuring stick for my lifetime of thought and discoveries. Since it always takes two to communicate, if you don't... "get it", then maybe that's your problem. My New Science explains the Universe. I won't even try to develop the math of any one part of that just to satisfy your (likely) sense of inferior "superiority". Tell us, Timo; What have YOU ever done for science? NoEinstein > > On May 2, 11:33 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > Nice "try" PD: Like I've told you a hundred times, PARAPHRASE, or > > copy, what you want me to read. You, an imbecile, don't qualify to > > tell me (who's off the top of the I. Q. chart) what I should do. You > > can only dream that I would care to follow your instructions, in any > > regard. NoEinstein > > Ah, now we see! > > You will recall that you've repeatedly claimed that hot objects > produce a stronger gravitational force (you say hot objects give off > more photons and therefore have a stronger incoming ether flow). You > made a real prediction, something that can potentially be measured to > give real concrete and convincing support for your theory, if you can > provide a quantitative prediction. You've been asked for this, and it > suprised me that instead of giving such a quantitative prediction - > which could easily convince the world of the truth of your proposed > theories if confirmed by experiment - you merely blustered rudely and > uselessly. Since you're clearly the King of the Hill of science, off > the top of the IQ chart, making more contributions to science than any > 10 PhDs, smart where Newton was a dunce, et cetera, surely it would be > such a trivial task for you to provide such a quantitative prediction. > > But now you've explained and we see the light! The reason you don't > answer such questions about science - your science - isn't because you > don't know the answers, that you can't answer such questions, but it's > because _we're_ such imbeciles that you don't _care_ to answer. > > Thank you for your clear and simple explanation, and clear > demonstration of the value of attempting to discuss science with you!
From: NoEinstein on 3 May 2010 00:43 On May 2, 9:18 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dear mpc755: Space is like an any module x, y, and z grid system. Those don't... FLOW. But of course you can set the origin at any place in the grid that you choose. NE > > On May 2, 4:11 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > On Apr 26, 1:46 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Dear mpc755: The ether flowing toward the Earthas the mechanism of > > gravityis nearly vertical at the Earth's surface. Ether has ZERO > > drag on light! But ether will drag masses caught in theflow, in > > proportion to the mass of the object. Hawking pointed out on his > > 'Time Travel' show last week that the GPS clocks 'speed up' (he didn't > > say with respect to what). The ether density is greatest at the > > surface of the Earth and drops off, approximately, agreeing with the > > inverse square law. Satellites at higher altitudes will be > > encountering LESS ether than at lower altitudes. So there will be > > LESS time dilation. (Note: That'snota space-time effect, but an > > etherflow, pressure effect). Less time dilation means that the clock > > will speed up. Amazingly, Einsteins empirical equations for the > > orbit of the planet Mercury, are a close approximation of the forces > > of gravity for inverse-square-law-proportional etherflowand > > distance. That's why the "Lorentz transformation" works as a MATH > > correction, but doesn't work as a law of science. There are no > > velocity variant "rubber rulers" in Nature! NoEinstein > > The pressure exerted by the aether in nearby regions towards the > matter doing the displacing is described, weakly, as "space > effectively flows towards matter". > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > Aether is displaced by matter. > Displacement creates pressure. > Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter. > > Gravitation, the 'Dark Matter' Effect and the Fine Structure Constanthttp://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0401047 > > "There we see the first arguments that indicate the logical necessity > for quantum behaviour, at both the spatial level and at the matter > level. There space is, at one of the lowest levels, a quantumfoam > system undergoing ongoing classicalisation. That model suggest that > gravity is caused by matter changing the processing rate of the > informational system that manifests as space, and as a consequence > space effectively flows towards matter. However this is not a flow > of some form of matter through space, as previously considered in > the aether models or in the random particulate Le Sage kinetic > theory of gravity, rather the flow is an ongoing rearrangement of the > quantum-foam patterns that form space, and indeed only have a > geometrical description at a coarse-grained level. Then the flow in > one region is relative only to the patterns in nearby regions, and not > relative to some a priori background geometrical space" > > What is described as "space effectively flows towards matter" is the > pressure exerted by the aether towards the matter. > > "Then the flow in one region is relative only to the patterns in > nearby regions" is the pressure exerted by the aether in nearby > regions displaced by the matter.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: mpc755 on 3 May 2010 00:53 On May 3, 12:43 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > On May 2, 9:18 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear mpc755: Space is like an any module x, y, and z grid system. > Those don't... FLOW. But of course you can set the origin at any > place in the grid that you choose. NE > Gravitation, the 'Dark Matter' Effect and the Fine Structure Constant http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0401047 "However this is not a flow of some form of matter through space, as previously considered in the aether models" Aether and matter are different states of the same material. Aether is displaced by matter. Displacement creates pressure. Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter. "There we see the first arguments that indicate the logical necessity for quantum behaviour, at both the spatial level and at the matter level. There space is, at one of the lowest levels, a quantumfoam system undergoing ongoing classicalisation. That model suggest that gravity is caused by matter changing the processing rate of the informational system that manifests as space, and as a consequence space effectively flows towards matter. However this is not a flow of some form of matter through space, as previously considered in the aether models or in the random particulate Le Sage kinetic theory of gravity, rather the flow is an ongoing rearrangement of the quantum-foam patterns that form space, and indeed only have a geometrical description at a coarse-grained level. Then the flow in one region is relative only to the patterns in nearby regions, and not relative to some a priori background geometrical space" What is described as "space effectively flows towards matter" is the pressure exerted by the aether towards the matter. "Then the flow in one region is relative only to the patterns in nearby regions" is the pressure exerted by the aether in nearby regions displaced by the matter.
From: NoEinstein on 3 May 2010 00:58
On May 2, 9:19 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 2, 4:19 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > On Apr 26, 1:48 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Dear mpc755: The velocity of the ether is pressure determined. The > > ether density is greatest right next to massive objects, and less > > further away. The "conveyor belt" of photon emission from massive > > objects carries out the most ether in the early part of its travel. > > That helps to maintain the ether density greatest closer to the mass. > > Eventually, all light will loose its 'hitch-hiking' ether and keep > > right on going. Photons can travel perfectly well through the ether- > > less regions between galaxies. Much of my New Science has resulted > > from my near total understanding of the mechanisms of both light and > > gravity. NoEinstein > > The faster an object moves with respect to the aether the greater the > pressure exerted by the aether towards and throughout the object. > Flying a spaceship into the ether has the same drag effect as if the spaceship was standing still and the ether was flowing front to back. Double the ether flow and you double the WEIGHT of the spaceship. > > The pressure exerted by the aether in nearby regions towards the > matter doing the displacing is described, weakly, as "space > effectively flows towards matter". > Early on, the ether was mistakenly used as a fixed reference 'frame' for moving light and celestial objects. But the ether is discontinuous away from the masses. It FLOWS from pressure differentials much like weather systems on Earth. That flow of ether is toward the masses as gravity, and away from the masses as photon or charged particle emissions. > > Aether and matter are different states of the same material. > Aether is displaced by matter. > Displacement creates pressure. > Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter. > > Gravitation, the 'Dark Matter' Effect and the Fine Structure Constanthttp://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0401047 > > "There we see the first arguments that indicate the logical necessity > for quantum behaviour, at both the spatial level and at the matter > level. There space is, at one of the lowest levels, a quantumfoam > system undergoing ongoing classicalisation. That model suggest that > gravity is caused by matter changing the processing rate of the > informational system that manifests as space, and as a consequence > space effectively flows towards matter. However this is not a flow > of some form of matter through space, as previously considered in > the aether models or in the random particulate Le Sage kinetic > theory of gravity, rather the flow is an ongoing rearrangement of the > quantum-foam patterns that form space, and indeed only have a > geometrical description at a coarse-grained level. Then the flow in > one region is relative only to the patterns in nearby regions, and not > relative to some a priori background geometrical space" > > What is described as "space effectively flows towards matter" is the > pressure exerted by the aether towards the matter. > Then why not say just the latter? > > "Then the flow in one region is relative only to the patterns in > nearby regions" is the pressure exerted by the aether in nearby > regions displaced by the matter. > There you go again: ETHER flows THROUGH matter, and is NEVER displaced by matter! NoEinstein |