From: xxein on
On May 18, 11:02 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 17, 9:31 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 14, 10:33 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 14, 3:13 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 7, 6:07 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > PD hasn't quoted any authoritative source showing that WORK is in any
> > > > way involved in calculating KE.
>
> > > Oh, yes, I have, John. You don't seem to remember anything that was
> > > told to you the day before.
> > > Do you like easy to read pages? Here's one for students at West
> > > Virginia University:http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~vawter/PhysicsNet/Topics/Work/WorkEngergyTheor...
> > > "The energy associated with the work done by the net force does not
> > > disappear after the net force is removed (or becomes zero), it is
> > > transformed into the Kinetic Energy of the body. We call this the Work-
> > > Energy Theorem."
>
> > > > And he hasn't quoted any
> > > > authoritative source saying that "work" can be done simply by
> > > > COASTING, against no resistance!
>
> > > The definition of work is in high school books, John.
>
> > And the definitions of Parasite; Dunce; and Imbecile are in any
> > dictionary.  Ha, ha HA!  — NE —
>
> Hey, John, you asked for a direct quote from a reliable reference and
> I gave you one.
> If you don't like getting exactly what you ask for, then why do you
> ask for it?
>
>
>
>
>
> > > >  And he certainly can't explain how
> > > > 'gravity' could possibly 'know' the velocities of every falling object
> > > > (like hail from varying heights) and add the exact semi-parabolic KE
> > > > increase to each.
>
> > > Doesn't have to, John. The force is not solely responsible for the
> > > increase in energy. The work is. The work is the product of both the
> > > force and the displacement. That's how the work increases in each
> > > second. It's simple, John. Seventh graders can understand it. I don't
> > > know why you're so much slower than the average 7th grader.
>
> > > > In short, PD is a total, sidestepping FRAUD!  And
> > > > 95% of the readers know that he's a fraud!  — NoEinstein —
>
> > > > > On May 7, 3:16 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 7, 9:12 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > PD, you are a LIAR!  Never ONCE have you explained why KE = 1/2mv^2
> > > > > > isn't in violation of the Law of the Conservation of Energy.  Until
> > > > > > you do (and you CAN'T) everyone will know that you are just an air-
> > > > > > head FRAUD!  — NoEinstein —
>
> > > > > Oh, but I have. If you really need to have it explained again, I ask
> > > > > you this time to print it out.
>
> > > > > The law of conservation of energy says that any change in the energy
> > > > > of a system must be due solely to the work done on the system.
>
> > > > > The work is the force acting on the object times the displacement of
> > > > > the object. So any change in energy of the object must be due solely
> > > > > to this work.
>
> > > > > In the case of a falling body released from rest, we'll look at the
> > > > > increase in the kinetic energy, which must be due to the work done by
> > > > > the only force acting on the body -- gravity. If the increase of
> > > > > kinetic energy the body has at any time is accounted for by the work
> > > > > that was done on the body during that time, then we know that the law
> > > > > of conservation of energy has been respected.
>
> > > > > In the first second, the body will fall 16 ft. In the next second, it
> > > > > will fall an additional 48 feet. In the third second, it will fall an
> > > > > additional 80 feet. During these first three seconds, the force has
> > > > > remained constant, so that it is the same in the first second, the
> > > > > second second, the third second. The speed increases linearly, so that
> > > > > it is falling at 32 ft/s after the first second, 64 ft/s after the
> > > > > second second, and 96 ft/s after the third second.
>
> > > > > Now, let's take a look at the work. The work done since the drop,
> > > > > after the first second, is the force of gravity times the
> > > > > displacement. This is mass x g x (16 ft). So this is how much kinetic
> > > > > energy the object has after one second. Now, in the second second,
> > > > > we'll add more work, in the amount mass x g x (48 ft), since that's
> > > > > the displacement for the next second. This increases the kinetic
> > > > > energy of the body, so that it now has kinetic energy mass x g x (16
> > > > > ft + 48 ft) = mass x g x (64 ft), and that number is four times bigger
> > > > > than it was after the first second. Now, in the third second, we'll
> > > > > add more work, in the amount mass x g x (80 ft), since that's the
> > > > > displacement for the next sentence. Since energy is conserved, this
> > > > > added energy must add to the kinetic energy of the body, so that it
> > > > > now has kinetic energy mass x g x (64 ft + 80 ft) = mass x g x (144
> > > > > ft), and that number is nine times bigger than it was after the first
> > > > > second.
>
> > > > > Now, it should be plain that the kinetic energy is conserved, since
> > > > > the only thing that has been contributing to it is the work done in
> > > > > subsequent seconds. We lost nothing, and we added only that which
> > > > > gravity added. The energy is conserved.
>
> > > > > It should also be apparent that the kinetic energy is increasing in
> > > > > the ratios 1:4:9.
> > > > > Meanwhile, the velocities are increasing linearly, in the ratios
> > > > > 1:2:3.
>
> > > > > Now, any fourth grader can see that we've completely conserved energy,
> > > > > losing track of nothing, and yet the kinetic energy is increasing as
> > > > > the square of the velocity. 1:4:9 are the squares of 1:2:3.
>
> > > > > There is no violation of conservation of kinetic energy, and yet KE is
> > > > > proportional to v^2.
>
> > > > > Now, don't you feel silly that a 4th grader can understand all of
> > > > > this, but you've never understood it?
>
> > > > > > > On May 6, 8:54 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On May 5, 11:43 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > OH?  Then please explain, PD, how a UNIFORM force input—the static
> > > > > > > > weight of the falling object—can cause a semi-parabolic increase in
> > > > > > > > the KE.  Haven't you heard?:  Energy IN must = energy OUT!   —
> > > > > > > > NoEinstein —
>
> > > > > > > I have explained this to you dozens of times. I gather that you do not
> > > > > > > remember any of those posts, and you do not know how to use your
> > > > > > > newsreader or Google to go back and find any of those dozens of times
> > > > > > > when it has been explained to you.
>
> > > > > > > I surmise that you are slipping into dementia, where each day begins
> > > > > > > anew, with any lessons learned the previous day forgotten.
>
> > > > > > > I don't think it's a good use of my time to explain the same thing to
> > > > > > > you each day, only to have you retire at night and forget it by
> > > > > > > morning, do you?
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xxein: So the Bible (any interpretation) is reliable too?
From: NoEinstein on
On May 18, 9:18 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 17, 6:04 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > On May 17, 2:59 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear PD, the Parasite Dunce: You have changed the subject AWAY from
> > KE,
>
> No, I didn't. I responded directly to your post about ether flow on
> muons.
>
> > because you can't find any place in any text that states: "Work is
> > being done even if there is no resistance. (sic) The only requirement
> > to have work is that there be a displacement. (sic) Thus, if a hockey
> > puck slides twice as far across the ice, twice as much work was done,
> > and there is twice as much KE in the puck, even if the ice is
> > frictionless. (sic)."
>
> You are not paying attention.
>
Remember, PD: I am King of the Hill in science. It isn't "my job" to
pay attention to you.
>
> There is no work if there is no force present, even in the absence of resistance.
>
I correct you: 'There is no work if there is no force present', AND
there is no corresponding resistance

> There is work if there is a force present, even in the absence of resistance.
>
Dear PD: Newton's Laws of Motion require: "For every action there
must be an equal and opposite reaction." It is IMPOSSIBLE to apply a
force... UNLESS there is a corresponding resisting force! That is
like applying the "force" of a skyscraper in a marsh. The maximum
static force that can ever be applied is determined by the supporting
capacity of the marsh—effectively ZERO. My thesis in Architecture
was: "Float Foundations for Poor Soils". Essentially, I created
structural boats under buildings to support those by the bouyancy of
the marsh. For the record, I made an 'A' on that thesis. —
NoEinstein —
>
> > The resistance on electrons imposed by the ether IS the force being
> > measured in those early Lorentz experiments.
>
> Sorry, what "Lorentz experiments"?
>
Lorentz experimented, extensively, with trying to measure the velocity
and the mass of electrons. Those were inside vacuum tubes, and were
speeded up by electromagnets. But, strangely, the electrons
encountered exponentially more resistance the closer the velocity came
to 'c'. The equation beta = 1 / [1 - v^2/c^2]^1/2 was written years
before the M-M experiment. Lorentz shoehorned such to also explain
(sic) the nil results of M-M. Lorentz was a mathematition who DABBLED
in science. Expect bad results whenever that happens.
>
> > So, the very experiments
> > you inquire about, only need the correct CAUSE, not a new set of
> > experiments!
>
> A correct cause would be accompanied by calculations, indicating the
> size of the effect expected due to this cause. Without those
> calculations, you've got nothing.
>
PD, the drag on electrons due to the ether that is clumping in front
is very close to Lorentz's Beta. The MATH is close to correct, but
the cause is ether drag. Note: Ether can drag electrons and massive
objects, but it never drags photons! — NoEinstein —
From: PD on
On May 20, 7:40 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On May 18, 9:18 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 17, 6:04 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > On May 17, 2:59 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Dear PD, the Parasite Dunce: You have changed the subject AWAY from
> > > KE,
>
> > No, I didn't. I responded directly to your post about ether flow on
> > muons.
>
> > > because you can't find any place in any text that states: "Work is
> > > being done even if there is no resistance. (sic)  The only requirement
> > > to have work is that there be a displacement. (sic)  Thus, if a hockey
> > > puck slides twice as far across the ice, twice as much work was done,
> > > and there is twice as much KE in the puck, even if the ice is
> > > frictionless. (sic)."
>
> > You are not paying attention.
>
> Remember, PD: I am King of the Hill in science.  It isn't "my job" to
> pay attention to you.

:>)
Just make sure you tell yourself that each day in the mirror. If you
like, please add the line, "And I am the heir to the throne of the
kingdom, by birthright." You may also consider adding, if you are
feeling confident, "And I am irresistible to women."

>
> > There is no work if there is no force present, even in the absence of resistance.
>
> I correct you: 'There is no work if there is no force present', AND
> there is no corresponding resistance

There is no work done if there is no net force, regardless whether
there is resistance or not.

>
> > There is work if there is a force present, even in the absence of resistance.
>
> Dear PD:  Newton's Laws of Motion require: "For every action there
> must be an equal and opposite reaction."  It is IMPOSSIBLE to apply a
> force... UNLESS there is a corresponding resisting force!

Newton's 3rd law is not a statement about a resisting force. That is a
common mistake by high school students that is corrected in virtually
every textbook on the subject. For example, from the high school text
that I've been quoting from, page 133:
"One important thing to remember about action-reaction pairs is that
each force acts on a different object. Consider the task of driving a
nail into wood.... To accelerate the nail and drive it into the wood,
the hammer exerts a force on the nail. According to Newton's third
law, the nail exerts a force on the hammer that is equal to the
magnitude of the force that the hammer exerts on the nail.
"The concept of action-reaction pairs is a common source of confusion
because some people assume incorrectly that equal and opposite forces
balance one another and make any change in the state of motion
impossible. If the force that the nail exerts is equal to the force
the hammer exerts on the nail, why doesn't the nail remain at rest?
"The motion of the nail is affected only by the forces acting on the
nail. To determine whether the nail will accelerate, draw a free-body
diagram to isolate the forces acting on the nail.... The force of the
nail on the hammer is not included in the diagram because it does not
act on the nail. According to the diagram, the nail will be driven
into the wood because there is a net force acting on the nail. Thus,
action-reaction pairs do not imply that the net force on either object
is zero. The action-reaction forces are equal and opposite, but either
object may still have a net force acting on it."

>  That is
> like applying the "force" of a skyscraper in a marsh.  The maximum
> static force that can ever be applied is determined by the supporting
> capacity of the marsh—effectively ZERO.  My thesis in Architecture
> was: "Float Foundations for Poor Soils".  Essentially, I created
> structural boats under buildings to support those by the bouyancy of
> the marsh.  For the record, I made an 'A' on that thesis.  —
> NoEinstein —
>
> > > The resistance on electrons imposed by the ether IS the force being
> > > measured in those early Lorentz experiments.
>
> > Sorry, what "Lorentz experiments"?
>
> Lorentz experimented, extensively, with trying to measure the velocity
> and the mass of electrons.  Those were inside vacuum tubes, and were
> speeded up by electromagnets.  But, strangely, the electrons
> encountered exponentially more resistance the closer the velocity came
> to 'c'.

Reference, please.

>  The equation beta = 1 / [1 - v^2/c^2]^1/2 was written years
> before the M-M experiment.  Lorentz shoehorned such to also explain
> (sic) the nil results of M-M.  Lorentz was a mathematition who DABBLED
> in science.  Expect bad results whenever that happens.
>
> > > So, the very experiments
> > > you inquire about, only need the correct CAUSE, not a new set of
> > > experiments!
>
> > A correct cause would be accompanied by calculations, indicating the
> > size of the effect expected due to this cause. Without those
> > calculations, you've got nothing.
>
> PD, the drag on electrons due to the ether that is clumping in front
> is very close to Lorentz's Beta.

Prove that.

>  The MATH is close to correct, but
> the cause is ether drag.

Prove that. Show the derivation. Your bluff is called.

>  Note: Ether can drag electrons and massive
> objects, but it never drags photons!  — NoEinstein —

From: NoEinstein on
On May 20, 9:42 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
Dear PD: If you had ever taken a course in structural engineering,
there are TWO distinct types of force interactions. The STATIC ones
always have the opposing forces being equal. But the DYNAMIC ones
only have a FORCE equal to the LESSER resistance of the two. You've
never realized that DYNAMICS limits the downward force on the falling
object to be whatever the INERTIA of the object is. Since the inertia
of a one pound mass will always be just one pound, there can never be
an exponential KE increase, because the force and the resistance are
equal. Since your precious WORK would have to increase exponentially,
that violates simple dynamics, because the distances traveled by
falling objects differ so markedly from second to second. I hope that
you are sitting down, PD, because the latter statement means that
there can neither be an increasing Work nor and increasing KE, from
just the accruing COASTING components, which you are so reluctant to
acknowledge. The COASTING components of the distance of fall for all
dropped objects KILLS your made-up science! — NoEinstein —
>
> On May 20, 7:40 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > On May 18, 9:18 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 17, 6:04 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 17, 2:59 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Dear PD, the Parasite Dunce: You have changed the subject AWAY from
> > > > KE,
>
> > > No, I didn't. I responded directly to your post about ether flow on
> > > muons.
>
> > > > because you can't find any place in any text that states: "Work is
> > > > being done even if there is no resistance. (sic)  The only requirement
> > > > to have work is that there be a displacement. (sic)  Thus, if a hockey
> > > > puck slides twice as far across the ice, twice as much work was done,
> > > > and there is twice as much KE in the puck, even if the ice is
> > > > frictionless. (sic)."
>
> > > You are not paying attention.
>
> > Remember, PD: I am King of the Hill in science.  It isn't "my job" to
> > pay attention to you.
>
> :>)
> Just make sure you tell yourself that each day in the mirror. If you
> like, please add the line, "And I am the heir to the throne of the
> kingdom, by birthright." You may also consider adding, if you are
> feeling confident, "And I am irresistible to women."
>
>
>
> > > There is no work if there is no force present, even in the absence of resistance.
>
> > I correct you: 'There is no work if there is no force present', AND
> > there is no corresponding resistance
>
> There is no work done if there is no net force, regardless whether
> there is resistance or not.
>
>
>
> > > There is work if there is a force present, even in the absence of resistance.
>
> > Dear PD:  Newton's Laws of Motion require: "For every action there
> > must be an equal and opposite reaction."  It is IMPOSSIBLE to apply a
> > force... UNLESS there is a corresponding resisting force!
>
> Newton's 3rd law is not a statement about a resisting force. That is a
> common mistake by high school students that is corrected in virtually
> every textbook on the subject. For example, from the high school text
> that I've been quoting from, page 133:
> "One important thing to remember about action-reaction pairs is that
> each force acts on a different object. Consider the task of driving a
> nail into wood.... To accelerate the nail and drive it into the wood,
> the hammer exerts a force on the nail. According to Newton's third
> law, the nail exerts a force on the hammer that is equal to the
> magnitude of the force that the hammer exerts on the nail.
> "The concept of action-reaction pairs is a common source of confusion
> because some people assume incorrectly that equal and opposite forces
> balance one another and make any change in the state of motion
> impossible. If the force that the nail exerts is equal to the force
> the hammer exerts on the nail, why doesn't the nail remain at rest?
> "The motion of the nail is affected only by the forces acting on the
> nail. To determine whether the nail will accelerate, draw a free-body
> diagram to isolate the forces acting on the nail.... The force of the
> nail on the hammer is not included in the diagram because it does not
> act on the nail. According to the diagram, the nail will be driven
> into the wood because there is a net force acting on the nail. Thus,
> action-reaction pairs do not imply that the net force on either object
> is zero. The action-reaction forces are equal and opposite, but either
> object may still have a net force acting on it."
>
>
>
>
>
> >  That is
> > like applying the "force" of a skyscraper in a marsh.  The maximum
> > static force that can ever be applied is determined by the supporting
> > capacity of the marsh—effectively ZERO.  My thesis in Architecture
> > was: "Float Foundations for Poor Soils".  Essentially, I created
> > structural boats under buildings to support those by the bouyancy of
> > the marsh.  For the record, I made an 'A' on that thesis.  —
> > NoEinstein —
>
> > > > The resistance on electrons imposed by the ether IS the force being
> > > > measured in those early Lorentz experiments.
>
> > > Sorry, what "Lorentz experiments"?
>
> > Lorentz experimented, extensively, with trying to measure the velocity
> > and the mass of electrons.  Those were inside vacuum tubes, and were
> > speeded up by electromagnets.  But, strangely, the electrons
> > encountered exponentially more resistance the closer the velocity came
> > to 'c'.
>
> Reference, please.
>
> >  The equation beta = 1 / [1 - v^2/c^2]^1/2 was written years
> > before the M-M experiment.  Lorentz shoehorned such to also explain
> > (sic) the nil results of M-M.  Lorentz was a mathematition who DABBLED
> > in science.  Expect bad results whenever that happens.
>
> > > > So, the very experiments
> > > > you inquire about, only need the correct CAUSE, not a new set of
> > > > experiments!
>
> > > A correct cause would be accompanied by calculations, indicating the
> > > size of the effect expected due to this cause. Without those
> > > calculations, you've got nothing.
>
> > PD, the drag on electrons due to the ether that is clumping in front
> > is very close to Lorentz's Beta.
>
> Prove that.
>
> >  The MATH is close to correct, but
> > the cause is ether drag.
>
> Prove that. Show the derivation. Your bluff is called.
>
>
>
> >  Note: Ether can drag electrons and massive
> > objects, but it never drags photons!  — NoEinstein —- Hide quoted text -
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From: NoEinstein on
On May 14, 10:33 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
Folks: For over two weeks, now, Google hasn't been reporting recent
updates on this post. Therefore, I am re posting the original essay,
but with the number "2" at the end. I hope that "thinkers" among you
will leave comments. And I especially hope that Google will get their
computers working right.

PD, the Parasite Dunce, doesn't understand mechanics. He "dabbled" in
H. E. Particle physics, then, taught High School science. No such
teacher is the final word on anything. And those decades-old texts
aren't authoritative, either. My ASSIGNMENT for PD:

(1.) Define MOMENTUM, both in words and by formula. Explain what each
variable is, and explain the UNITS of the results after using the
equation.

(2.) Give a clear and concise definition of the Law of the
Conservation of ENERGY.

(3.) Concisely define Kinetic Energy, and state the UNITS.

(4.) If work can be done without there being both a force AND a
matching resistance, explain WHY.

(5.) The KE equation in most texts is KE = 1/2mv^2. Since the
distance of fall of dropped objects increases parabolically with
respect to time, please explain how your... 'WORK is proportional to
distance' notion isn't a 100% exaggeration of the KE.

>
> On May 14, 3:13 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > On May 7, 6:07 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > PD hasn't quoted any authoritative source showing that WORK is in any
> > way involved in calculating KE.
>
> Oh, yes, I have, John. You don't seem to remember anything that was
> told to you the day before.
> Do you like easy to read pages? Here's one for students at West
> Virginia University:http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~vawter/PhysicsNet/Topics/Work/WorkEngergyTheor...
> "The energy associated with the work done by the net force does not
> disappear after the net force is removed (or becomes zero), it is
> transformed into the Kinetic Energy of the body. We call this the Work-
> Energy Theorem."
>
> > And he hasn't quoted any
> > authoritative source saying that "work" can be done simply by
> > COASTING, against no resistance!
>
> The definition of work is in high school books, John.
>
> >  And he certainly can't explain how
> > 'gravity' could possibly 'know' the velocities of every falling object
> > (like hail from varying heights) and add the exact semi-parabolic KE
> > increase to each.
>
> Doesn't have to, John. The force is not solely responsible for the
> increase in energy. The work is. The work is the product of both the
> force and the displacement. That's how the work increases in each
> second. It's simple, John. Seventh graders can understand it. I don't
> know why you're so much slower than the average 7th grader.
>
>
>
> > In short, PD is a total, sidestepping FRAUD!  And
> > 95% of the readers know that he's a fraud!  — NoEinstein —
>
> > > On May 7, 3:16 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 7, 9:12 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > PD, you are a LIAR!  Never ONCE have you explained why KE = 1/2mv^2
> > > > isn't in violation of the Law of the Conservation of Energy.  Until
> > > > you do (and you CAN'T) everyone will know that you are just an air-
> > > > head FRAUD!  — NoEinstein —
>
> > > Oh, but I have. If you really need to have it explained again, I ask
> > > you this time to print it out.
>
> > > The law of conservation of energy says that any change in the energy
> > > of a system must be due solely to the work done on the system.
>
> > > The work is the force acting on the object times the displacement of
> > > the object. So any change in energy of the object must be due solely
> > > to this work.
>
> > > In the case of a falling body released from rest, we'll look at the
> > > increase in the kinetic energy, which must be due to the work done by
> > > the only force acting on the body -- gravity. If the increase of
> > > kinetic energy the body has at any time is accounted for by the work
> > > that was done on the body during that time, then we know that the law
> > > of conservation of energy has been respected.
>
> > > In the first second, the body will fall 16 ft. In the next second, it
> > > will fall an additional 48 feet. In the third second, it will fall an
> > > additional 80 feet. During these first three seconds, the force has
> > > remained constant, so that it is the same in the first second, the
> > > second second, the third second. The speed increases linearly, so that
> > > it is falling at 32 ft/s after the first second, 64 ft/s after the
> > > second second, and 96 ft/s after the third second.
>
> > > Now, let's take a look at the work. The work done since the drop,
> > > after the first second, is the force of gravity times the
> > > displacement. This is mass x g x (16 ft). So this is how much kinetic
> > > energy the object has after one second. Now, in the second second,
> > > we'll add more work, in the amount mass x g x (48 ft), since that's
> > > the displacement for the next second. This increases the kinetic
> > > energy of the body, so that it now has kinetic energy mass x g x (16
> > > ft + 48 ft) = mass x g x (64 ft), and that number is four times bigger
> > > than it was after the first second. Now, in the third second, we'll
> > > add more work, in the amount mass x g x (80 ft), since that's the
> > > displacement for the next sentence. Since energy is conserved, this
> > > added energy must add to the kinetic energy of the body, so that it
> > > now has kinetic energy mass x g x (64 ft + 80 ft) = mass x g x (144
> > > ft), and that number is nine times bigger than it was after the first
> > > second.
>
> > > Now, it should be plain that the kinetic energy is conserved, since
> > > the only thing that has been contributing to it is the work done in
> > > subsequent seconds. We lost nothing, and we added only that which
> > > gravity added. The energy is conserved.
>
> > > It should also be apparent that the kinetic energy is increasing in
> > > the ratios 1:4:9.
> > > Meanwhile, the velocities are increasing linearly, in the ratios
> > > 1:2:3.
>
> > > Now, any fourth grader can see that we've completely conserved energy,
> > > losing track of nothing, and yet the kinetic energy is increasing as
> > > the square of the velocity. 1:4:9 are the squares of 1:2:3.
>
> > > There is no violation of conservation of kinetic energy, and yet KE is
> > > proportional to v^2.
>
> > > Now, don't you feel silly that a 4th grader can understand all of
> > > this, but you've never understood it?
>
> > > > > On May 6, 8:54 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> > > > > > On May 5, 11:43 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > OH?  Then please explain, PD, how a UNIFORM force input—the static
> > > > > > weight of the falling object—can cause a semi-parabolic increase in
> > > > > > the KE.  Haven't you heard?:  Energy IN must = energy OUT!   —
> > > > > > NoEinstein —
>
> > > > > I have explained this to you dozens of times. I gather that you do not
> > > > > remember any of those posts, and you do not know how to use your
> > > > > newsreader or Google to go back and find any of those dozens of times
> > > > > when it has been explained to you.
>
> > > > > I surmise that you are slipping into dementia, where each day begins
> > > > > anew, with any lessons learned the previous day forgotten.
>
> > > > > I don't think it's a good use of my time to explain the same thing to
> > > > > you each day, only to have you retire at night and forget it by
> > > > > morning, do you?
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