From: Al Williams on 20 Apr 2010 17:13 You'd be better off moving some of the larger non-system files to another partition (pagefile, logs, databases, Shadow Copy Data, etc.). Resizing system partition is a PITA. Here are some tips: http://www.lwcomputing.com/tips/static/bootdrivesize.asp -- Allan Williams Guus Ellenkamp wrote: > For quite some time I have a W2003 server that was installed on a too > small system partition (or there is still some rubbish I cannot > find). Even though I still think re�nstalling it would be the fastest > and most reliable option, I'm still considering doing it another way, > like increasing the partition size with some partioning tool. > > I know the last is not advisable, but anyone who did it and how?
From: Guus Ellenkamp on 23 Apr 2010 12:33 Thanks for all the replies. I'll review them carefully. I already cleaned up a lot and put a lot of stuff on other volumes, including program files. Cleaned up Documents and Settings already. It's a 10Gb partition, so should be big enough for just the OS, but somehow there is stuff that's still very large and I can't figure out exactly what. Any more suggestions what could be so big are welcome. "Grant Taylor" <gtaylor(a)riverviewtech.net> wrote in message news:hqkgh6$lsk$1(a)tranq7.tranquility.net... > On 04/20/10 06:34, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: >> Long experience with Unix, Netware, and other systems has me convinced of >> the long-standing wisdom (certainly in the Unix world) of not putting >> applications, log files, and user data on the system volume wherever >> possible. > > I *COMPLETELY* agree. > > On the servers that I set up, I usually have a system volume, a swap > volume, and one or more data volumes. > >> I'm curious. How many of the times that you've expanded a system volume >> have been because the "Program Files" or "Documents and Settings" trees >> have become too big? > > Many of the servers that I have inherited / taken support over tend to > fall in to this category. > > I have run in to a few very long running servers that started with either > a 2 / 4 GB system volume and the OS has grown (because of service packs / > hot fixes / demanding IE updates / etc.) to the point that the OS is too > snug for comfort. > > Usually along these lines, it's time to upgrade the drives any way. In > these cases I usually establish a new RAID, and image from the small RAID > to the larger RAID while adjusting the size on the fly. After the fact, > the system seems to be much happier. > > As far as "Program Files" and "Documents and Settings" is concerned, I > usually move them to other volumes when things start to be come a problem. > When ever possible, I will put things like Exchange and SQL data files on > a different volume too. > > Like I said, I /completely/ agree with spreading things out across > multiple volumes. :-} > > > > Grant. . . .
From: Al Williams on 23 Apr 2010 16:37 Download treesize or windirstat - they are free tools that show you where your space is going. -- Allan Williams Guus Ellenkamp wrote: > Thanks for all the replies. I'll review them carefully. > > I already cleaned up a lot and put a lot of stuff on other volumes, > including program files. Cleaned up Documents and Settings already. > It's a 10Gb partition, so should be big enough for just the OS, but > somehow there is stuff that's still very large and I can't figure out > exactly what. > Any more suggestions what could be so big are welcome. > > "Grant Taylor" <gtaylor(a)riverviewtech.net> wrote in message > news:hqkgh6$lsk$1(a)tranq7.tranquility.net... >> On 04/20/10 06:34, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: >>> Long experience with Unix, Netware, and other systems has me >>> convinced of the long-standing wisdom (certainly in the Unix world) >>> of not putting applications, log files, and user data on the system >>> volume wherever possible. >> >> I *COMPLETELY* agree. >> >> On the servers that I set up, I usually have a system volume, a swap >> volume, and one or more data volumes. >> >>> I'm curious. How many of the times that you've expanded a system >>> volume have been because the "Program Files" or "Documents and >>> Settings" trees have become too big? >> >> Many of the servers that I have inherited / taken support over tend >> to fall in to this category. >> >> I have run in to a few very long running servers that started with >> either a 2 / 4 GB system volume and the OS has grown (because of >> service packs / hot fixes / demanding IE updates / etc.) to the >> point that the OS is too snug for comfort. >> >> Usually along these lines, it's time to upgrade the drives any way. In >> these cases I usually establish a new RAID, and image from the >> small RAID to the larger RAID while adjusting the size on the fly. After >> the fact, the system seems to be much happier. >> >> As far as "Program Files" and "Documents and Settings" is concerned, >> I usually move them to other volumes when things start to be come a >> problem. When ever possible, I will put things like Exchange and SQL >> data files on a different volume too. >> >> Like I said, I /completely/ agree with spreading things out across >> multiple volumes. :-} >> >> >> >> Grant. . . .
From: Guus Ellenkamp on 23 Apr 2010 21:39 Thanks a lot for the suggestion. Just downloaded it and see a major 'disk eater' already: the Windows Installer folder. Safe to delete and how? "Al Williams" <AMBW(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:e2T$TTy4KHA.1888(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Download treesize or windirstat - they are free tools that show you where > your space is going. > > -- > Allan Williams > > > > > Guus Ellenkamp wrote: >> Thanks for all the replies. I'll review them carefully. >> >> I already cleaned up a lot and put a lot of stuff on other volumes, >> including program files. Cleaned up Documents and Settings already. >> It's a 10Gb partition, so should be big enough for just the OS, but >> somehow there is stuff that's still very large and I can't figure out >> exactly what. >> Any more suggestions what could be so big are welcome. >> >> "Grant Taylor" <gtaylor(a)riverviewtech.net> wrote in message >> news:hqkgh6$lsk$1(a)tranq7.tranquility.net... >>> On 04/20/10 06:34, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: >>>> Long experience with Unix, Netware, and other systems has me >>>> convinced of the long-standing wisdom (certainly in the Unix world) >>>> of not putting applications, log files, and user data on the system >>>> volume wherever possible. >>> >>> I *COMPLETELY* agree. >>> >>> On the servers that I set up, I usually have a system volume, a swap >>> volume, and one or more data volumes. >>> >>>> I'm curious. How many of the times that you've expanded a system >>>> volume have been because the "Program Files" or "Documents and >>>> Settings" trees have become too big? >>> >>> Many of the servers that I have inherited / taken support over tend >>> to fall in to this category. >>> >>> I have run in to a few very long running servers that started with >>> either a 2 / 4 GB system volume and the OS has grown (because of >>> service packs / hot fixes / demanding IE updates / etc.) to the >>> point that the OS is too snug for comfort. >>> >>> Usually along these lines, it's time to upgrade the drives any way. In >>> these cases I usually establish a new RAID, and image from the >>> small RAID to the larger RAID while adjusting the size on the fly. After >>> the fact, the system seems to be much happier. >>> >>> As far as "Program Files" and "Documents and Settings" is concerned, >>> I usually move them to other volumes when things start to be come a >>> problem. When ever possible, I will put things like Exchange and SQL >>> data files on a different volume too. >>> >>> Like I said, I /completely/ agree with spreading things out across >>> multiple volumes. :-} >>> >>> >>> >>> Grant. . . . > >
From: Al Williams on 26 Apr 2010 11:31 Lots of hits on google on that... http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en-GB&q=server+2003+windows+installer+folder+cleanup&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGLL_en-GBCA361CA362&ie=UTF-8 -- Allan Williams Guus Ellenkamp wrote: > Thanks a lot for the suggestion. Just downloaded it and see a major > 'disk eater' already: the Windows Installer folder. Safe to delete > and how? > > "Al Williams" <AMBW(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:e2T$TTy4KHA.1888(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Download treesize or windirstat - they are free tools that show you >> where your space is going. >> >> -- >> Allan Williams >> >> >> >> >> Guus Ellenkamp wrote: >>> Thanks for all the replies. I'll review them carefully. >>> >>> I already cleaned up a lot and put a lot of stuff on other volumes, >>> including program files. Cleaned up Documents and Settings already. >>> It's a 10Gb partition, so should be big enough for just the OS, but >>> somehow there is stuff that's still very large and I can't figure >>> out exactly what. >>> Any more suggestions what could be so big are welcome. >>> >>> "Grant Taylor" <gtaylor(a)riverviewtech.net> wrote in message >>> news:hqkgh6$lsk$1(a)tranq7.tranquility.net... >>>> On 04/20/10 06:34, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: >>>>> Long experience with Unix, Netware, and other systems has me >>>>> convinced of the long-standing wisdom (certainly in the Unix >>>>> world) of not putting applications, log files, and user data on >>>>> the system volume wherever possible. >>>> >>>> I *COMPLETELY* agree. >>>> >>>> On the servers that I set up, I usually have a system volume, a >>>> swap volume, and one or more data volumes. >>>> >>>>> I'm curious. How many of the times that you've expanded a system >>>>> volume have been because the "Program Files" or "Documents and >>>>> Settings" trees have become too big? >>>> >>>> Many of the servers that I have inherited / taken support over tend >>>> to fall in to this category. >>>> >>>> I have run in to a few very long running servers that started with >>>> either a 2 / 4 GB system volume and the OS has grown (because of >>>> service packs / hot fixes / demanding IE updates / etc.) to the >>>> point that the OS is too snug for comfort. >>>> >>>> Usually along these lines, it's time to upgrade the drives any >>>> way. In these cases I usually establish a new RAID, and image from >>>> the small RAID to the larger RAID while adjusting the size on the fly. >>>> After the fact, the system seems to be much happier. >>>> >>>> As far as "Program Files" and "Documents and Settings" is >>>> concerned, I usually move them to other volumes when things start to be >>>> come a >>>> problem. When ever possible, I will put things like Exchange and >>>> SQL data files on a different volume too. >>>> >>>> Like I said, I /completely/ agree with spreading things out across >>>> multiple volumes. :-} >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Grant. . . .
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