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From: Butch Malahide on 27 Jul 2010 05:13 On Jul 26, 11:13 pm, William Elliot <ma...(a)rdrop.remove.com> wrote: > Let S be a set and p an element of S. > > What topology can S have if for all functions f:S -> S, > f is continuous iff f(p) = p or f is constant function? > > Is the topology unique? If it's required that the space > be T0, will the topology be unique? A topology with the stated property is *necessarily* T0. Assume for a contradiction that there are two distinct points a,b in S such that every neighborhood of a is a neighborhood of b and vice versa. Then every function f:S -> {a, b} is continuous. Choose c in {a, b} \ {p}, and define f:S -> {a, b} by setting f(a) = b, f(b) = a, and f(x) = c otherwise. Then f is a nonconstant continuous selfmap on S, and f(p) is not p.
From: Butch Malahide on 27 Jul 2010 05:21 On Jul 27, 4:13 am, Butch Malahide <fred.gal...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 26, 11:13 pm, William Elliot <ma...(a)rdrop.remove.com> wrote: > > > Let S be a set and p an element of S. > > > What topology can S have if for all functions f:S -> S, > > f is continuous iff f(p) = p or f is constant function? > > > Is the topology unique? If it's required that the space > > be T0, will the topology be unique? > > A topology with the stated property is *necessarily* T0. Assume for a > contradiction that there are two distinct points a,b in S such that > every neighborhood of a is a neighborhood of b and vice versa. Then > every function > f:S -> {a, b} is continuous. Choose c in {a, b} \ {p}, and define > f:S -> {a, b} by setting f(a) = b, f(b) = a, and f(x) = c otherwise.. > Then f is a nonconstant continuous selfmap on S, and f(p) is not p. Sorry, I made that too complicated. Just define f(a) = b and f(x) = a for all x in S \ {a}. Then f is a continuous selfmap with no fixed points.
From: Butch Malahide on 28 Jul 2010 01:52 On Jul 27, 4:21 am, Butch Malahide <fred.gal...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 27, 4:13 am, Butch Malahide <fred.gal...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 11:13 pm, William Elliot <ma...(a)rdrop.remove.com> wrote: > > > > Let S be a set and p an element of S. > > > > What topology can S have if for all functions f:S -> S, > > > f is continuous iff f(p) = p or f is constant function? > > > > Is the topology unique? If it's required that the space > > > be T0, will the topology be unique? > > > A topology with the stated property is *necessarily* T0. The OP's "puzzle" seems obscurely motivated, but this observation might be an amusing little exercise (hardly a puzzle) for beginning students of topology. EXERCISE. If a topological space X has the fixed point property (every continuous mapping of X into X has a fixed point) then X is a T_0 space. SOLUTION. Let a and b be two distinct points in X. Define a function f:X->X by setting f(a) = b, f(x) = a if x is different from a. Since f has no fixed points, it is discontinuous; i.e., there is an open set U whose preimage is not open. Thus U is an open set containing one and only one of the two points a and b.
From: William Elliot on 28 Jul 2010 04:51 Butch Malahide <fred.galvin(a)gmail.com> >> Let S be a set and p an element of S. > >> What topology can S have if for all functions f:S -> S, >> f is continuous iff f(p) = p or f is constant function? > >> Is the topology unique? If it's required that the space >> be T0, will the topology be unique? > Given S and p, the only topologies satisfying your condition are: > (I) the open sets are the empty set and all sets containing p; > (II) the open sets are S and all sets not containing p. That's a surprise, dual topologies using the self-dual definition of continuous. > These are T_0 topologies. If |S| = 1 they coincide; if |S| = 2 they > are distinct but homeomorphic; if |S| > 2 they are nonhomeomorphic. > A topology with the stated property is *necessarily* T0. Assume for a > contradiction that there are two distinct points a,b in S such that > every neighborhood of a is a neighborhood of b and vice versa. Then > every function f:S -> {a, b} is continuous. > Define f(a) = b and f(x) = a, for all x in S \ {a}. > Then f is a continuous selfmap with no fixed points. Excellent. Have you any additional evidence backing your claim that the include p and exclude p topologies are the only topologies with the stated continuity property? Having established that S is T0, there'd be two cases: some open U with p in U, U proper subset S; some closed K with p in K, K proper subset S. For the first case assume p in A. Map A to p and S\A to a point outside of U. Since f^-1(U) = A, A is open. Now if B is a not empty, open set with p not in B, then S is disconnected, which contradicts the continuity property. The dual second case is immediate with a dual proof. Alternatively, for x /= p, map S\x to p and x to a point outside of K. Since f^-1(K) = S\x is closed, every point /= p, is open and every set without p is open, ie every set with p is closed. ----
From: William Elliot on 28 Jul 2010 05:17 On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Butch Malahide wrote: >>> On Jul 26, 11:13�pm, William Elliot <ma...(a)rdrop.remove.com> wrote: >> >>>> Let S be a set and p an element of S. >> >>>> What topology can S have if for all functions f:S -> S, >>>> f is continuous iff f(p) = p or f is constant function? >> >>>> Is the topology unique? �If it's required that the space >>>> be T0, will the topology be unique? >> >>> A topology with the stated property is *necessarily* T0. > > The OP's "puzzle" seems obscurely motivated, but this observation > might be an amusing little exercise (hardly a puzzle) for beginning > students of topology. > It was motivated by a student's problem, characterize the continuous maps from Sp to Sq where Sp has the include p topology and Sq has the include q topology, for S. > EXERCISE. If a topological space X has the fixed point property (every > continuous mapping of X into X has a fixed point) then X is a T_0 > space. > Exercise. Fixed point spaces are connected. > SOLUTION. Let a and b be two distinct points in X. Define a function > f:X->X by setting f(a) = b, f(x) = a if x is different from a. Since f > has no fixed points, it is discontinuous; i.e., there is an open set U > whose preimage is not open. Thus U is an open set containing one and > only one of the two points a and b.
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