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From: John H Meyers on 26 Aug 2009 20:20
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:02:49 -0500, Jim B wrote:

> Everest and Comcast

Uh-oh, you're the guy still climbing Mt. Everest, since July 2008?

I thought no one could possibly survive that long up there! ;-)

> I can receive email in my WinXP Pro but cannot send it out.

I seem to recall that you have some incoming mail at one ISP,
but you need to send mail via another ISP,
and the "outgoing mail ISP" also requires a password?

This is how it's done in Eudora:

Persona: POP, SMTP, username/password
-------------------------------------
P1: pop.isp1.net, smtp.isp1.net, ISP1's username/password
P2: pop.isp2.net, smtp.isp2.net, ISP2's username/password

Note that each persona names only the servers of ONE isp,
whether or not you are going to use each server;
in particular, do not leave blank any POP server name,
even if you are going to turn off "Check Mail" and not use it.

Each persona's username/password must also be
for just that same persona's servers -- no mixing!

Final steps:

Let's suppose that P2 has the SMTP server
through which we want to send all mail.

Go to "Sending Mail" options and select the "sender persona" (P2)
in the "SMTP Relay Personality" drop-down list.

Also open the "properties" of each persona (in Tools > Personalities)
and put a check mark next to "Use relay personality, if defined"
(you can do this even for the same persona that is the "relay" itself)

That's it! From now on, whenever you send a message,
it will go via the outgoing (SMTP) server of the persona
which you selected in "Sending Mail" as the "relayer"
(which we might think of as a "pinch hitter"
which bats for us whenever we have something to send).

One quirky thing:

Whenever Eudora has to ask you for a password,
it is going to say, in its pop-up,
that it wants the password for a POP server,
even if it really needs it for an SMTP server.

So what? It's for the same personality and ISP,
so if we have left no blank user or server names,
and have not "mixed two ISPs in one personality,"
we can always see which ISP's password is needed!

Older versions actually ask for exactly what's in
the "Account" column of Tools > Personalities,
so make sure that something is always shown there!

This is one reason why we always enter a POP server name
for every ISP, whether we are going to use it or not
(I seem to recall that there's another quirky bug
if we leave them blank, so just don't leave any blanks,
and also do not mix two ISPs in any one personality).

If we have ever mixed ourselves up,
and have entered the wrong ISP's password,
"Special" > "Forget Password(s)" will let Eudora ask us again,
and give us another opportunity to permanently "remember" the right answers,
which is probably more liberal than when we ever had to take exams :)

Let me know when you reach the Everest summit again, and congratulations!

--
From: Jim B on 26 Aug 2009 22:42
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:20:22 -0500, "John H Meyers" <jhmeyers(a)nomail.invalid>
wrote:

Yeah, I am still trying and just to let you know I appreciate your time and
patient. I will print your posting below, read and read again. Hopefully I will
succeed this time. Gonna spent the whole evening and more time to get it right.
I am starting posting a lot of stuff in Craigslist. Have to move in a few month
times. Thanks John.

>On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:02:49 -0500, Jim B wrote:
>
>> Everest and Comcast
>
>Uh-oh, you're the guy still climbing Mt. Everest, since July 2008?
>
>I thought no one could possibly survive that long up there! ;-)
>
>> I can receive email in my WinXP Pro but cannot send it out.
>
>I seem to recall that you have some incoming mail at one ISP,
>but you need to send mail via another ISP,
>and the "outgoing mail ISP" also requires a password?
>
>This is how it's done in Eudora:
>
>Persona: POP, SMTP, username/password
>-------------------------------------
>P1: pop.isp1.net, smtp.isp1.net, ISP1's username/password
>P2: pop.isp2.net, smtp.isp2.net, ISP2's username/password
>
>Note that each persona names only the servers of ONE isp,
>whether or not you are going to use each server;
>in particular, do not leave blank any POP server name,
>even if you are going to turn off "Check Mail" and not use it.
>
>Each persona's username/password must also be
>for just that same persona's servers -- no mixing!
>
>Final steps:
>
>Let's suppose that P2 has the SMTP server
>through which we want to send all mail.
>
>Go to "Sending Mail" options and select the "sender persona" (P2)
>in the "SMTP Relay Personality" drop-down list.
>
>Also open the "properties" of each persona (in Tools > Personalities)
>and put a check mark next to "Use relay personality, if defined"
>(you can do this even for the same persona that is the "relay" itself)
>
>That's it! From now on, whenever you send a message,
>it will go via the outgoing (SMTP) server of the persona
>which you selected in "Sending Mail" as the "relayer"
>(which we might think of as a "pinch hitter"
>which bats for us whenever we have something to send).
>
>One quirky thing:
>
>Whenever Eudora has to ask you for a password,
>it is going to say, in its pop-up,
>that it wants the password for a POP server,
>even if it really needs it for an SMTP server.
>
>So what? It's for the same personality and ISP,
>so if we have left no blank user or server names,
>and have not "mixed two ISPs in one personality,"
>we can always see which ISP's password is needed!
>
>Older versions actually ask for exactly what's in
>the "Account" column of Tools > Personalities,
>so make sure that something is always shown there!
>
>This is one reason why we always enter a POP server name
>for every ISP, whether we are going to use it or not
>(I seem to recall that there's another quirky bug
>if we leave them blank, so just don't leave any blanks,
>and also do not mix two ISPs in any one personality).
>
>If we have ever mixed ourselves up,
>and have entered the wrong ISP's password,
>"Special" > "Forget Password(s)" will let Eudora ask us again,
>and give us another opportunity to permanently "remember" the right answers,
>which is probably more liberal than when we ever had to take exams :)
>
>Let me know when you reach the Everest summit again, and congratulations!

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