From: Albert Retey on
Hi,

>
> To pursue the inquiry a bit further, Workbench seems to be called an
> "environment" -- a term that may have varied meanings.
>
> Would it also be properly called an "app"?

Eclipse is a regular "application" and the application type is IDE, that
is "Integrated Development Environment", a class of applications that
traditionally integrate stuff like compilers, build tools, debuggers,
version control and some more in one application.
The Wolfram Workbench is a plugin for eclipse which adds support for the
programming language Mathematica to eclipse, that is an editor that
knows Mathematica syntax, a debugger, a profiler and some other tools
that help with standard tasks that a Mathematica programmer will be
faced when writing a Mathematica package or application. If you are
interested, learn more about eclipse at www.eclipse.org

> As an operational question, if you Open Workbench on a Mac, does
> "Workbench" appear just the right of the Apple Menu in the menu bar?

I don't have a Mac handy, and never used neither Wolfram Workbench nor
Eclipse on a Mac, so I simply don't know, I'm also not sure which menu
bar you are referring to...

hth,

albert

From: Albert Retey on
Hi,

>> If you are only writing pure mathematica package files, the added value
>> of the workbench is IMHO limited, it really can help you to save a lot
>> of work only if you either plan to provide documentation that you want
>> to integrate into the Documentation Center ......
>
> I have figured out and documented an easy way to integrate documentation
> into the DC without the use of the workbench. See my website for details.

I know that and also the documentation of David Reiss, which adds some
other tricks to the ones in your documentation. Both are appreciated and
very helpful and good enough to integrate documentation into the
Documentation Center. But they both assume rather good familiarity with
Mathematica (which the workbench actually does, too) and there are some
additional benefits that only the workbench/documentation tools provide:
e.g. the stylesheets for documentation source notebooks, the toolbars to
edit documentation notebooks and the automatic links that the workbench
inserts when "building" the documentation. So if you are using the
workbench anyway, the tools it provides for creating documentation are a
big help, on the other hand it is not absolutely necessary to use the
workbench to get your documentation done, thanks to your and the other
Davids documentations, which actually one have only the one drawback of
being not "official" and thus might need adaption with a future version...

regards,

albert

hth,

albert

From: George Woodrow III on

On Mar 7, 2010, at 4:01 AM, AES wrote:
> As an operational question, if you Open Workbench on a Mac, does
> "Workbench" appear just the right of the Apple Menu in the menu bar?
>

Yes, on OS X, Workbench is an app, just like any other. In earlier versions (and some betas of version 2), yu would get two icons in the dock, which indicated that there were actually two processes. The activity monitor currently shows just one process, so that issue has been fixed (probably related to the cross platform nature of Eclipse -- I get this behavior with apps using Wine.)

It is shown as a 32 bit Intel (only) application.

george


> In article <hmqiun$sg6$1(a)smc.vnet.net>,
> Albert Retey <awnl(a)gmx-topmail.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>>> I just realized that there is an extra setting for the help system, in
>>>> Preferences -> Help -> "Open Help Contents" you can choose to open help in
>>>> an
>>>> external browser.
>>>
>>> Are you talking about something in Mathematica Preferences here, or in
>>> the Mac OS Help System or some other OS?
>>
>> this thread is named Transistion to Wolfram Workbench, so I thought it
>> was clear we are talking about Wolfram Workbench and of course it is the
>> preferences of the workbench that I was talking about...
>>
>> hth,
>
> Yes, it does, thanks.
>
> To pursue the inquiry a bit further, Workbench seems to be called an
> "environment" -- a term that may have varied meanings.
>
> Would it also be properly called an "app"?
>
> As an operational question, if you Open Workbench on a Mac, does
> "Workbench" appear just the right of the Apple Menu in the menu bar?
>


From: Chuck on
I am trying to simply open a test project using the wizard, as
illustrated in the video linked in the Welcome section.

I choose open New Project. The wizard pops up. I choose Basic
Project in the Mathematica list.

The wizard freezes. Nothing else happens.

I have also cannot open an existing package and get a long list of
error messages, similar to those submitted earlier by another poster
to this thread.

I am running this on Linux 9.10 and Workbench 2.0.

Chuck

From: Adam Berry on
On 3/11/10 6:21 AM, Chuck wrote:
> I am trying to simply open a test project using the wizard, as
> illustrated in the video linked in the Welcome section.
>
> I choose open New Project. The wizard pops up. I choose Basic
> Project in the Mathematica list.
>
> The wizard freezes. Nothing else happens.
>
> I have also cannot open an existing package and get a long list of
> error messages, similar to those submitted earlier by another poster
> to this thread.
>
> I am running this on Linux 9.10 and Workbench 2.0.
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
The issue with the wizard is likely linked to a problem between
Eclipse/SWT and the version of GTK used in Ubuntu 9.10, see
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=299896 for details and a
workaround.

In Workbench 2.0, code files must exist inside a project for them to be
opened with Mathematica code editor, so first create a project, copy the
files into it, and then you can start working with it.

Adam Berry
Wolfram Workbench Development Team