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From: Lisi on 4 Aug 2010 17:40
On Wednesday 04 August 2010 20:55:07 John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> Regarding how to help - that would be a good question to ask Tim Pearson
> (http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/).  

I already have - he hasn't so far contacted me.

> I'm sure he could use any
> financial help no matter how small to pay for the extensive damage they
> sustained.

Again, I already have previously - and would have done immediately earlier
this evening, but I need to research how to use the link he provided. I
shall do so as soon as I have sent this.

> I'm also pretty certain they can use help testing the Debian
> repository to work out any quirks in the port from Ubuntu.

The question is whether I could do enough to be helpful - I am not very
knowledgeable/skillful. But I am certainly willing.

> And, of
> course, keep spreading the word - John

That I do too! Whenever and wherever I can.

Lisi



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From: Jimmy Johnson on 4 Aug 2010 21:30
John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 14:41 +0100, Lisi wrote:
>> On Wednesday 04 August 2010 14:34:00 Lisi wrote:
>>> On Wednesday 04 August 2010 11:02:52 Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>>>> Trinity KDE 3.5.11 [snip] User
>>> How are you getting on with it? Does it have full functionality in Ubuntu?
>>>
>>> I am watching with interest. I am hoping that, by the time that I have to
>>> abandom Lenny, Trinity will have a deb. that I can use in Squeeze.
>> I see that .debs for Debian are well on the way, but have been held up by the
>> massive blowout at Pearson Computing. :-(


> Indeed - I am experimenting with Trinity on Lenny as a Debian repository
> and full replacement for KDE3. It is mostly working well. Kontact is
> largely fixed and 95% working with Zimbra. There are a few glitches
> that I suspect will be quickly remedied as soon as Pearson Computing's
> build farm comes back on line but I think we will have a Debian KDE3
> option relatively soon - John


Thanks John, the last time I looked I didn't see a port for Debian, I'm
off to find the repos, if you have a link please post it. :-)
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From: John A. Sullivan III on 5 Aug 2010 07:30
On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 18:23 -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 14:41 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> >> On Wednesday 04 August 2010 14:34:00 Lisi wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday 04 August 2010 11:02:52 Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> >>>> Trinity KDE 3.5.11 [snip] User
> >>> How are you getting on with it? Does it have full functionality in Ubuntu?
> >>>
> >>> I am watching with interest. I am hoping that, by the time that I have to
> >>> abandom Lenny, Trinity will have a deb. that I can use in Squeeze.
> >> I see that .debs for Debian are well on the way, but have been held up by the
> >> massive blowout at Pearson Computing. :-(
>
>
> > Indeed - I am experimenting with Trinity on Lenny as a Debian repository
> > and full replacement for KDE3. It is mostly working well. Kontact is
> > largely fixed and 95% working with Zimbra. There are a few glitches
> > that I suspect will be quickly remedied as soon as Pearson Computing's
> > build farm comes back on line but I think we will have a Debian KDE3
> > option relatively soon - John
>
>
> Thanks John, the last time I looked I didn't see a port for Debian, I'm
> off to find the repos, if you have a link please post it. :-)
Sure - here is a note from Tim Pearson:

Trinity is already compiled for Debian Lenny, so why not give it a
shot? ;-) Here is the package list with buildlogs/status/etc.:
https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/trinity

If you want to use the repository, just add these lines to your
sources.list file:
deb
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps/ubuntu lenny main
deb-src
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps/ubuntu lenny main
deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/ubuntu
lenny main
deb-src
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/ubuntu lenny
main

I believe the repositories are currently down while he awaits the last
of the replacements for the fired power conditioning system.

It does honor any KDEDIRS and XDG_DATA_DIRS settings for users operating
in Kiosk mode like we are.

Another note from Tim:
If you install KDE3 and Trinity side-by-side, remember to select Trinity
from the Sessions menu in KDM before logging in, otherwise you will get
a stock KDE3 session.

For those not using KDM (e.g., we do not in our X2Go environment-
another great project - http://www.x2go.org), simply point
at /opt/trinity/bin/startkde instead of /usr/bin/startkde The start
script will handle the rest.

To enable side by side installations, Trinity stores everything
in /opt/trinity. It also stores user configuration in ~/.trinity
instead of ~/.kde so, if you want to maintain your configuration, you
will need to copy the .kde contents into .trinity.

In my case, I had to do an apt-get -f in order to properly pull in the
builddeps - I believe the various kdelibs packages. That could be
because of our someone unusual vserver/x2go environment.

Hope this helps and, again, Tim seems to be putting in countless hours
and lots of personal funds to do this and can use all the good help he
can get (I assume) - John


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From: Jimmy Johnson on 5 Aug 2010 15:50
John A. Sullivan III wrote:

> Sure - here is a note from Tim Pearson:
>
> Trinity is already compiled for Debian Lenny, so why not give it a
> shot? ;-) Here is the package list with buildlogs/status/etc.:
> https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/trinity
>
> If you want to use the repository, just add these lines to your
> sources.list file:
> deb
> http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps/ubuntu lenny main
> deb-src
> http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps/ubuntu lenny main
> deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/ubuntu
> lenny main
> deb-src
> http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/ubuntu lenny
> main
>
> I believe the repositories are currently down while he awaits the last
> of the replacements for the fired power conditioning system.
>
> It does honor any KDEDIRS and XDG_DATA_DIRS settings for users operating
> in Kiosk mode like we are.
>
> Another note from Tim:
> If you install KDE3 and Trinity side-by-side, remember to select Trinity
> from the Sessions menu in KDM before logging in, otherwise you will get
> a stock KDE3 session.
>
> For those not using KDM (e.g., we do not in our X2Go environment-
> another great project - http://www.x2go.org), simply point
> at /opt/trinity/bin/startkde instead of /usr/bin/startkde The start
> script will handle the rest.
>
> To enable side by side installations, Trinity stores everything
> in /opt/trinity. It also stores user configuration in ~/.trinity
> instead of ~/.kde so, if you want to maintain your configuration, you
> will need to copy the .kde contents into .trinity.
>
> In my case, I had to do an apt-get -f in order to properly pull in the
> builddeps - I believe the various kdelibs packages. That could be
> because of our someone unusual vserver/x2go environment.
>
> Hope this helps and, again, Tim seems to be putting in countless hours
> and lots of personal funds to do this and can use all the good help he
> can get (I assume) - John


Except for http://www.x2go.org I'm getting 404 on all the trinity links. :-(
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From: John A. Sullivan III on 5 Aug 2010 16:10
On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 12:43 -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> John A. Sullivan III wrote:
>
> > Sure - here is a note from Tim Pearson:
> >
> > Trinity is already compiled for Debian Lenny, so why not give it a
> > shot? ;-) Here is the package list with buildlogs/status/etc.:
> > https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/trinity
> >
> > If you want to use the repository, just add these lines to your
> > sources.list file:
> > deb
> > http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps/ubuntu lenny main
> > deb-src
> > http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps/ubuntu lenny main
> > deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/ubuntu
> > lenny main
> > deb-src
> > http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/ubuntu lenny
> > main
> >
> > I believe the repositories are currently down while he awaits the last
> > of the replacements for the fired power conditioning system.
> >
> > It does honor any KDEDIRS and XDG_DATA_DIRS settings for users operating
> > in Kiosk mode like we are.
> >
> > Another note from Tim:
> > If you install KDE3 and Trinity side-by-side, remember to select Trinity
> > from the Sessions menu in KDM before logging in, otherwise you will get
> > a stock KDE3 session.
> >
> > For those not using KDM (e.g., we do not in our X2Go environment-
> > another great project - http://www.x2go.org), simply point
> > at /opt/trinity/bin/startkde instead of /usr/bin/startkde The start
> > script will handle the rest.
> >
> > To enable side by side installations, Trinity stores everything
> > in /opt/trinity. It also stores user configuration in ~/.trinity
> > instead of ~/.kde so, if you want to maintain your configuration, you
> > will need to copy the .kde contents into .trinity.
> >
> > In my case, I had to do an apt-get -f in order to properly pull in the
> > builddeps - I believe the various kdelibs packages. That could be
> > because of our someone unusual vserver/x2go environment.
> >
> > Hope this helps and, again, Tim seems to be putting in countless hours
> > and lots of personal funds to do this and can use all the good help he
> > can get (I assume) - John
>
>
> Except for http://www.x2go.org I'm getting 404 on all the trinity links. :-(
<snip>
Yes, that's because he has the systems down until he can rebuild the
fried power conditioning system. Hopefully, they will be back up soon -
John


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