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From: Mark Murray on 19 Jul 2010 10:29 On 07/19/10 15:18, Tom St Denis wrote: > JSH because he's a cross-discipline troll. I'm just glad he stays out > of comp.compression and c.l.c. Oops. He's just getting going (again?) on "prime compression". Brace yourself. M --
From: MrD on 19 Jul 2010 11:38 Pubkeybreaker wrote: > > Kruger and Dunning proposed that, for a given skill, incompetent > people will: > > tend to overestimate their own level of skill; > fail to recognize genuine skill in others; > fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy; > recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of skill, > IF they can be trained to substantially improve. I've never heard of this before, but there was a loud >CLANG< of cognitive assonance[1] when I read it. It seems to me that as I get older and learn more[2], I feel less entitled to puff my own abilities, and more inclined to self-deprecation. This makes it harder for me to sell myself to prospective employers, and so has a rather significant impact on my life. I've found it puzzling and disturbing. -- MrD. [1] Actually I'm not sure that the sound of assonance is ever >CLANG<. [2] Of course, there's no automatic link between getting older and learning more.
From: Pubkeybreaker on 19 Jul 2010 11:42 On Jul 19, 11:38 am, MrD <mrdemean...(a)jackpot.invalid> wrote: > Pubkeybreaker wrote: > > [2] Of course, there's no automatic link between getting older and > learning more. As adacrypt, JSH and Archie have demonstrated.
From: Maaartin on 19 Jul 2010 12:44 On Jul 19, 5:38 pm, MrD <mrdemean...(a)jackpot.invalid> wrote: > It seems to me that as I get older and learn more[2], I feel less > entitled to puff my own abilities, and more inclined to > self-deprecation. This makes it harder for me to sell myself to > prospective employers, and so has a rather significant impact on my > life. I've found it puzzling and disturbing. I don't know the level of the job you look for, but don't forget that there are so many idiots in all positions. Considering this, I don't think there's a position too high for anybody capable of using knife and fork. It could help to concentrate on how you can do the job instead of your abilities as such. I know there many thousands people smarter then me in the world, but why should I care?
From: Scott Contini on 19 Jul 2010 22:08
On Jul 20, 12:02 am, Pubkeybreaker <pubkeybrea...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Jul 19, 9:54 am, Tom St Denis <t...(a)iahu.ca> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 19, 9:49 am, Pubkeybreaker <pubkeybrea...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > <snip> > > > > Kruger and Dunning proposed that, for a given skill, incompetent > > > people will: > > > > tend to overestimate their own level of skill; > > > fail to recognize genuine skill in others; > > > fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy; > > > recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of skill, > > > IF they can be trained to substantially improve. > > > > It all stems from ignorance and incompetence. And in many cases, the > > > ignorance > > > appears to be WILLFUL. Which makes it contemptible. > > > Ah very true. Given that the bias is not trade related I guess it's > > not surprising to see it across domains. > > > Tom > > If you think this NG is bad, you should see the looney-tunes in > sci.physics > and sci.math. Many of them seem to suffer from Narcissistic > Personality > Disorder as well as willful ignorance. > > I don't know who is worse: JSH, Archie Plutonium, or adacrypt. > I at least got many good laughs from Mr Plutonium. But reading somebody like JSH just makes me want to cry! Scott |