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From: Aaron W. Hsu on 14 Dec 2009 22:33
"john(a)wexfordpress.com" <john(a)wexfordpress.com> writes:

>On Dec 12, 6:43=A0pm, Aaron W. Hsu <arcf...(a)sacrideo.us> wrote:
>> Douglas Mayne <inva...(a)invalid.com> writes:
>> >(YMMV). The trick is to force the creation of xorg.conf and add the
>> >necessary parameters. Otherwise, the only choice looks like reverting to
>> >12.2 because X is necessary for desktop users.
>>
>> Naturally, users should definitely edit an xorg.conf file and make it
>> suitable if going without an xorg.conf doesn't work. Actually, some
>> systems have a tendency to revert to Vesa graphics, which have really
>> small modes by default. In those cases it's definitely better to have an
>> xorg.conf file.

>This is one of those "if it ain't broke don't fix it" situations.
>IMO abolishing xorg.conf was neither necessary nor helpful.
>To get the proper screen density etc. choices I recommend either
>copying xorg.conf from your next previous install or copying
>xorg.conf.vesa
>to xorg.conf and making the necessary changes to modes etc. .

I have had a few different machines since they started to do this, and I
can say that on those machines except maybe one, it has made things more
convenient and easier to set up, with all the appropriate modes and
resolutions just working without any configuration.

Aaron W. Hsu
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From: Eef Hartman on 18 Dec 2009 13:05
john(a)wexfordpress.com <john(a)wexfordpress.com> wrote:
> I have a monitor capable of screen modes of 1280 x 1024 and beyond. I

I've got a monitor (Samsung), capable of 1920x1200 (and 1600x1200 if
you need 4 to 3 ratio, with 2 black bars at the sides) AND an NVidia
adaptor, capable of DOING those resolution.
But I do need an xorg.conf file (with "nvidia" driver specified) to
be able to do it, so I never tried it without the X config.

> I also set my vertical and hoizontal sync ranges to match actual
> monitor specs, not some automated guesstimate.

THAT mostly isn't needed anymore with the newer LCD displays, just
specifying 1920x1200 @ 60 Hz worked for me for this screen.
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From: Grant on 18 Dec 2009 13:26
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:05:46 +0100, Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman(a)tudelft.nl> wrote:

>john(a)wexfordpress.com <john(a)wexfordpress.com> wrote:
>> I have a monitor capable of screen modes of 1280 x 1024 and beyond. I
>
>I've got a monitor (Samsung), capable of 1920x1200 (and 1600x1200 if
>you need 4 to 3 ratio, with 2 black bars at the sides) AND an NVidia
>adaptor, capable of DOING those resolution.
>But I do need an xorg.conf file (with "nvidia" driver specified) to
>be able to do it, so I never tried it without the X config.
>
>> I also set my vertical and hoizontal sync ranges to match actual
>> monitor specs, not some automated guesstimate.
>
>THAT mostly isn't needed anymore with the newer LCD displays, just
>specifying 1920x1200 @ 60 Hz worked for me for this screen.

I think John is using CRT, not LCD. And some CRTs advertise insane,
unusable resolutions that must be defeated by manually editing the
X config.

Grant.
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From: Henrik Carlqvist on 18 Dec 2009 14:41
Grant <g_r_a_n_t_(a)bugsplatter.id.au> wrote:
> some CRTs advertise insane, unusable resolutions that must be defeated
> by manually editing the X config.

Sometimes, also good monitors advertise no usable resolutions at all.
Those times include moments when:

A cheap VGA cable is used

A KVM switch is used and has some other computer connected to the monitor
at the moment of X startup.

No VGA or DVI cable is connected at the moment of X startup. (KVM
switching without a KVM switch)

IME those occasions make it worth to have the monitor specifications in
xorg.conf. At least for me the above occasions tend to happen a lot more
often than there is a change of monitor with new specifications.

regards Henrik
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