Trying to design low level hard disk manipulation program
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From: FredK on 9 Oct 2006 10:26 "David Wade" <g8mqw(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:d9-dncYD4srylLXYRVny3g(a)eclipse.net.uk... > > "Eric P." <eric_pattison(a)sympaticoREMOVE.ca> wrote in message > news:452806c6$0$1346$834e42db(a)reader.greatnowhere.com... > > prep(a)prep.synonet.com wrote: > > > > > > VMS has all of the above. > > > > > > Welcome to 1978. > > > > Yeah, its just that some aspects of WNT make me > > pine for the fjords of VMS. > > > > At the risk of getting black balled from this group, I would like to say > that I have never looked back to VMS with any thing other than a wonderment > on how clunky and user unfriendly it was. > Nah. I'd say while there are a few old-timers here with fond VMS memories, very few have even seen a VMS system in a decade. > That ruddy "C" compiler (sorry I don't know which) that couldn't read and > write "normal" VMS files but only special stream (?) files.All those file > version numbers that ate up disk space. That editor that was fine on a local > terminal, but which brought any network (that existed at that time) to its > knees through trying to echo every chacter remotley.. The Vax 11/750 that > seemed woe fully underpowered and which suffered from dreadfull "type > behind" when you got a few users on it... The Fortran compiler with all its > special VAX extensions, and lastly, and probably, worst of all, those > blasted file device strings littered with special characters..... what on > earth is "sys$system[my.fortran.files]fred.f77;66" about.... > Not quite sure what characters here are "special". The *practice* of NNN$ or XXX_ prefix in file names, variable names, and logical names was to provide a more-or-less standard way to avoid namespace collisions. So, the DEC-reserved SYS$ prefix would never collide with a user name.
From: Terje Mathisen on 9 Oct 2006 16:17 Charlie Gibbs wrote: > I had that happen when I built my IMSAI. The CPU chip that came > with the kit was defective. (But only slightly - conditional return > instructions were all unconditional, but aside from that it worked > fine.) I bet there's a long and interesting story behind how you figured out exactly _how_ it was failing. :-) Terje -- - <Terje.Mathisen(a)hda.hydro.com> "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching"
From: Peter Flass on 9 Oct 2006 17:32 Peter Flass wrote: > I loved the VAX architecture. CICS may be out of fashion today, but ^^^^^ Oops, typo, or maybe freudian slip. Make that CISC.
From: Gene Wirchenko on 9 Oct 2006 18:15 "FredK" <fred.nospam(a)nospam.dec.com> wrote: [snip] >Nah. I'd say while there are a few old-timers here with fond VMS memories, >very few have even seen a VMS system in a decade. I used one in 2002. I understand that the hardware was emulated. [snip] Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation: I have preferences. You have biases. He/She has prejudices.
From: on 9 Oct 2006 19:14
In article <452a5c02$1(a)usenet01.boi.hp.com>, FredK <fred.nospam(a)nospam.dec.com> wrote: snip-- >I'd say while there are a few old-timers here with fond VMS memories, i have many VMS memories, some fond >very few have even seen a VMS system in a decade. o, not so uncommon... for example... $ sho cluster View of Cluster from system ID 6328 node: PHYAS1 9-OCT-2006 19:13:28 lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqwqqqqqqqqqk x SYSTEMS x MEMBERS x tqqqqqqqqwqqqqqqqqqqqqqqnqqqqqqqqqu x NODE x SOFTWARE x STATUS x tqqqqqqqqnqqqqqqqqqqqqqqnqqqqqqqqqu x PHYAS1 x VMS V8.2 x MEMBER x x PHYAS2 x VMS V8.2 x MEMBER x x PHYALE x VMS V8.2 x MEMBER x mqqqqqqqqvqqqqqqqqqqqqqqvqqqqqqqqqj |