From: krw on
On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:05:44 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 12:58:03 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
><mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 05:29:37 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>>> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >Jim Thompson wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:21:20 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>>> >> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Jim Thompson wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:53:30 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> [snip]
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >I once repaired a TV set that had motorized tuning. Amazing.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> [snip]
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Not really amazing... I've seen quite a few ;-)
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> What might really amaze you... the 1968 Philco-Ford car radio... the
>>> >> >> search-tuning version... was all motor-driven inductor slugs... I
>>> >> >> know, I worked on the design :-)
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Yet the Lincoln used a Delco 'Wobnderbar' radio that year.
>>> >>
>>> >> Cars manufacture back in those days was an interesting game. High end
>>> >> cars had all the experiments... the idea being: rich folk will
>>> >> tolerate field failures if you kiss up to 'em and give 'em a loaner...
>>> >> no maintenance costs whatever :-)
>>> >>
>>> >> (Interesting aside... you should have seen the brouhaha when
>>> >> wife-of-upper-Ford-management goes into a car wash in Dearborn,
>>> >> "rolling door locks" went off during the roll, the hand washers
>>> >> couldn't open the doors and the car behind crashed into m'lady's fancy
>>> >> Lincoln "toy" :-)
>>> >>
>>> >> Everything innovative I ever did in automotive went into Lincoln's,
>>> >> Cadillac's and Chrysler 300D's first.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Did you ever see Caddilac's 'Automatic Headlight Dimmer'? ;-)
>>>
>>> You mean the big "tear-drop-on-its-side" thingy that sat on a stalk on
>>> the dash?
>>>
>>> I redid the electronics for that (GM Guidelamp Division)... adding
>>> various delay functions and "fast-dim" if you topped a hill into the
>>> face of another car. CdS sensor.
>>>
>>> Scared the Paradise Valley cops by testing that in the dips of
>>> McDonald drive ;-)
>>
>>
>> Yes, that wierd sensor that looked like a prop from a 'b' Sci-fi
>>movie.
>>
>> The only units I saw were all tube, and built in the '50s. No one
>>would even attempt to repair them, so you could get them from junked
>>caddys for free. I had at least one complete system, and thought it was
>>funny that it had about as may parts as the AM radio, and wasted so much
>>current. :(
>
>Does any car company offer an automatic headlight dimmer anymore?

My wife's car has automatic headlights; just as dumb.
From: Joerg on
krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:05:44 -0700, Jim Thompson
> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 12:58:03 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 05:29:37 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>>>> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:21:20 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>>>>>> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:53:30 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>>>> I once repaired a TV set that had motorized tuning. Amazing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not really amazing... I've seen quite a few ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What might really amaze you... the 1968 Philco-Ford car radio... the
>>>>>>>> search-tuning version... was all motor-driven inductor slugs... I
>>>>>>>> know, I worked on the design :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yet the Lincoln used a Delco 'Wobnderbar' radio that year.
>>>>>> Cars manufacture back in those days was an interesting game. High end
>>>>>> cars had all the experiments... the idea being: rich folk will
>>>>>> tolerate field failures if you kiss up to 'em and give 'em a loaner...
>>>>>> no maintenance costs whatever :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Interesting aside... you should have seen the brouhaha when
>>>>>> wife-of-upper-Ford-management goes into a car wash in Dearborn,
>>>>>> "rolling door locks" went off during the roll, the hand washers
>>>>>> couldn't open the doors and the car behind crashed into m'lady's fancy
>>>>>> Lincoln "toy" :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Everything innovative I ever did in automotive went into Lincoln's,
>>>>>> Cadillac's and Chrysler 300D's first.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you ever see Caddilac's 'Automatic Headlight Dimmer'? ;-)
>>>> You mean the big "tear-drop-on-its-side" thingy that sat on a stalk on
>>>> the dash?
>>>>
>>>> I redid the electronics for that (GM Guidelamp Division)... adding
>>>> various delay functions and "fast-dim" if you topped a hill into the
>>>> face of another car. CdS sensor.
>>>>
>>>> Scared the Paradise Valley cops by testing that in the dips of
>>>> McDonald drive ;-)
>>>
>>> Yes, that wierd sensor that looked like a prop from a 'b' Sci-fi
>>> movie.
>>>
>>> The only units I saw were all tube, and built in the '50s. No one
>>> would even attempt to repair them, so you could get them from junked
>>> caddys for free. I had at least one complete system, and thought it was
>>> funny that it had about as may parts as the AM radio, and wasted so much
>>> current. :(
>> Does any car company offer an automatic headlight dimmer anymore?
>
> My wife's car has automatic headlights; just as dumb.


The real problem with many of those is that they do not turn on the rear
lights. My office has a nice view and there is a road going straight up
a slope in the distance. At night I can regularly see many cars with the
headlights on and no rear lights. The driver doesn't notice because he
sees that the headlights are on. The perfect recipe for a rear-ender.

--
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From: Jim Thompson on
On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:18:26 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:05:44 -0700, Jim Thompson
>> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 12:58:03 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>>> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 05:29:37 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>>>>> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:21:20 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>>>>>>> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:53:30 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>>>>> I once repaired a TV set that had motorized tuning. Amazing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not really amazing... I've seen quite a few ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What might really amaze you... the 1968 Philco-Ford car radio... the
>>>>>>>>> search-tuning version... was all motor-driven inductor slugs... I
>>>>>>>>> know, I worked on the design :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yet the Lincoln used a Delco 'Wobnderbar' radio that year.
>>>>>>> Cars manufacture back in those days was an interesting game. High end
>>>>>>> cars had all the experiments... the idea being: rich folk will
>>>>>>> tolerate field failures if you kiss up to 'em and give 'em a loaner...
>>>>>>> no maintenance costs whatever :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (Interesting aside... you should have seen the brouhaha when
>>>>>>> wife-of-upper-Ford-management goes into a car wash in Dearborn,
>>>>>>> "rolling door locks" went off during the roll, the hand washers
>>>>>>> couldn't open the doors and the car behind crashed into m'lady's fancy
>>>>>>> Lincoln "toy" :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Everything innovative I ever did in automotive went into Lincoln's,
>>>>>>> Cadillac's and Chrysler 300D's first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you ever see Caddilac's 'Automatic Headlight Dimmer'? ;-)
>>>>> You mean the big "tear-drop-on-its-side" thingy that sat on a stalk on
>>>>> the dash?
>>>>>
>>>>> I redid the electronics for that (GM Guidelamp Division)... adding
>>>>> various delay functions and "fast-dim" if you topped a hill into the
>>>>> face of another car. CdS sensor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Scared the Paradise Valley cops by testing that in the dips of
>>>>> McDonald drive ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Yes, that wierd sensor that looked like a prop from a 'b' Sci-fi
>>>> movie.
>>>>
>>>> The only units I saw were all tube, and built in the '50s. No one
>>>> would even attempt to repair them, so you could get them from junked
>>>> caddys for free. I had at least one complete system, and thought it was
>>>> funny that it had about as may parts as the AM radio, and wasted so much
>>>> current. :(
>>> Does any car company offer an automatic headlight dimmer anymore?
>>
>> My wife's car has automatic headlights; just as dumb.
>
>
>The real problem with many of those is that they do not turn on the rear
>lights. My office has a nice view and there is a road going straight up
>a slope in the distance. At night I can regularly see many cars with the
>headlights on and no rear lights. The driver doesn't notice because he
>sees that the headlights are on. The perfect recipe for a rear-ender.

American-made cars? I've not seen a car like that, at least in recent
years. GM used to do it to avoid a wire to the alternator regulator.
Alternator output was initiated due to a slightly magnetized rotor...
thus you needed a minimum load... they chose the headlights and called
it a safety feature ;-)

I never touch the light switch on the Q45... it does it all
automagically. Annoying only in that it will turn on the lights in a
drive-thru :-(

...Jim Thompson
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From: krw on
On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:00:48 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:18:26 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>>> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:05:44 -0700, Jim Thompson
>>> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 12:58:03 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>>>> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 05:29:37 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>>>>>> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:21:20 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>>>>>>>> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:53:30 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>>>>>> I once repaired a TV set that had motorized tuning. Amazing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not really amazing... I've seen quite a few ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What might really amaze you... the 1968 Philco-Ford car radio... the
>>>>>>>>>> search-tuning version... was all motor-driven inductor slugs... I
>>>>>>>>>> know, I worked on the design :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yet the Lincoln used a Delco 'Wobnderbar' radio that year.
>>>>>>>> Cars manufacture back in those days was an interesting game. High end
>>>>>>>> cars had all the experiments... the idea being: rich folk will
>>>>>>>> tolerate field failures if you kiss up to 'em and give 'em a loaner...
>>>>>>>> no maintenance costs whatever :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (Interesting aside... you should have seen the brouhaha when
>>>>>>>> wife-of-upper-Ford-management goes into a car wash in Dearborn,
>>>>>>>> "rolling door locks" went off during the roll, the hand washers
>>>>>>>> couldn't open the doors and the car behind crashed into m'lady's fancy
>>>>>>>> Lincoln "toy" :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Everything innovative I ever did in automotive went into Lincoln's,
>>>>>>>> Cadillac's and Chrysler 300D's first.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did you ever see Caddilac's 'Automatic Headlight Dimmer'? ;-)
>>>>>> You mean the big "tear-drop-on-its-side" thingy that sat on a stalk on
>>>>>> the dash?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I redid the electronics for that (GM Guidelamp Division)... adding
>>>>>> various delay functions and "fast-dim" if you topped a hill into the
>>>>>> face of another car. CdS sensor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scared the Paradise Valley cops by testing that in the dips of
>>>>>> McDonald drive ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, that wierd sensor that looked like a prop from a 'b' Sci-fi
>>>>> movie.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only units I saw were all tube, and built in the '50s. No one
>>>>> would even attempt to repair them, so you could get them from junked
>>>>> caddys for free. I had at least one complete system, and thought it was
>>>>> funny that it had about as may parts as the AM radio, and wasted so much
>>>>> current. :(
>>>> Does any car company offer an automatic headlight dimmer anymore?
>>>
>>> My wife's car has automatic headlights; just as dumb.
>>
>>
>>The real problem with many of those is that they do not turn on the rear
>>lights. My office has a nice view and there is a road going straight up
>>a slope in the distance. At night I can regularly see many cars with the
>>headlights on and no rear lights. The driver doesn't notice because he
>>sees that the headlights are on. The perfect recipe for a rear-ender.
>
>American-made cars? I've not seen a car like that, at least in recent
>years. GM used to do it to avoid a wire to the alternator regulator.
>Alternator output was initiated due to a slightly magnetized rotor...
>thus you needed a minimum load... they chose the headlights and called
>it a safety feature ;-)
>
>I never touch the light switch on the Q45... it does it all
>automagically. Annoying only in that it will turn on the lights in a
>drive-thru :-(

My wife's won't come on until it's too dark. Forget a rainy day.

From: Joerg on
Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:18:26 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>>> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:05:44 -0700, Jim Thompson
>>> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 12:58:03 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>>>> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 05:29:37 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>>>>>> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:21:20 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>>>>>>>> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:53:30 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>>>>>> I once repaired a TV set that had motorized tuning. Amazing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not really amazing... I've seen quite a few ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What might really amaze you... the 1968 Philco-Ford car radio... the
>>>>>>>>>> search-tuning version... was all motor-driven inductor slugs... I
>>>>>>>>>> know, I worked on the design :-)
>>>>>>>>> Yet the Lincoln used a Delco 'Wobnderbar' radio that year.
>>>>>>>> Cars manufacture back in those days was an interesting game. High end
>>>>>>>> cars had all the experiments... the idea being: rich folk will
>>>>>>>> tolerate field failures if you kiss up to 'em and give 'em a loaner...
>>>>>>>> no maintenance costs whatever :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (Interesting aside... you should have seen the brouhaha when
>>>>>>>> wife-of-upper-Ford-management goes into a car wash in Dearborn,
>>>>>>>> "rolling door locks" went off during the roll, the hand washers
>>>>>>>> couldn't open the doors and the car behind crashed into m'lady's fancy
>>>>>>>> Lincoln "toy" :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Everything innovative I ever did in automotive went into Lincoln's,
>>>>>>>> Cadillac's and Chrysler 300D's first.
>>>>>>> Did you ever see Caddilac's 'Automatic Headlight Dimmer'? ;-)
>>>>>> You mean the big "tear-drop-on-its-side" thingy that sat on a stalk on
>>>>>> the dash?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I redid the electronics for that (GM Guidelamp Division)... adding
>>>>>> various delay functions and "fast-dim" if you topped a hill into the
>>>>>> face of another car. CdS sensor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scared the Paradise Valley cops by testing that in the dips of
>>>>>> McDonald drive ;-)
>>>>> Yes, that wierd sensor that looked like a prop from a 'b' Sci-fi
>>>>> movie.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only units I saw were all tube, and built in the '50s. No one
>>>>> would even attempt to repair them, so you could get them from junked
>>>>> caddys for free. I had at least one complete system, and thought it was
>>>>> funny that it had about as may parts as the AM radio, and wasted so much
>>>>> current. :(
>>>> Does any car company offer an automatic headlight dimmer anymore?
>>> My wife's car has automatic headlights; just as dumb.
>>
>> The real problem with many of those is that they do not turn on the rear
>> lights. My office has a nice view and there is a road going straight up
>> a slope in the distance. At night I can regularly see many cars with the
>> headlights on and no rear lights. The driver doesn't notice because he
>> sees that the headlights are on. The perfect recipe for a rear-ender.
>
> American-made cars? I've not seen a car like that, at least in recent
> years. GM used to do it to avoid a wire to the alternator regulator.
> Alternator output was initiated due to a slightly magnetized rotor...
> thus you needed a minimum load... they chose the headlights and called
> it a safety feature ;-)
>

I think it's mostly US cars but sometimes it's hard to tell because of
the distance. Once at a traffic light I got out and told the driver, who
then turned a little knobs and, tada, tail lights came on. IIRC it was a
Chrysler.

It's really scary when they tow a trailer, big black boat, no tail
lights. You can watch it on that hill because it's tempting to "gun it"
there if you have the proper car. Kid in low-rider Honda turns onto
Meder Road, floors it, enjoys the throaty exhaust, here comes that big
black trailer with no lights, screeeeech .....


> I never touch the light switch on the Q45... it does it all
> automagically. Annoying only in that it will turn on the lights in a
> drive-thru :-(
>

I prefer everything to be manual. Well, maybe except for the
mixture/ignition although in some areas of the world like Spain or
Portugal it came in handy when we could adjust that. Maybe the quality
of gasoline is better there now.

--
Regards, Joerg

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