From: Steve Urbach on 3 Feb 2010 17:50 On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:49:02 +0000, Jim Higgins <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:39:28 -0500, me(a)tadyatam.invalid wrote: > >>Steve Urbach <dragonsclaw(a)NOTmindspring.com> wrote in >>news:tbj3m55r4fe61i1d0eo3eccp41iak2c4fr(a)4ax.com: >> >>> Junk(ing) is not normally the same /filter/ (you may have >>> made Filters to move some unwanted stuff to Junk (why? >>> Trash better? ) ) >>> >> >>FWIW >>Confirmed: Incoming mail sent to Junk by a filter does not go >>through inbox. > >Since this is not the case, how did you confirm this? > >Mail sent to Junk by the built-in spam filter as well as mail sent to >Junk by an explicit user-made filter both go thru the In box. > >I confirmed this by seeing something (spam) appear in Junk, inspecting >its headers for its Message-ID, closing Eudora, and then opening the >In.mbx file with Wordpad and searching for that Message-ID. The same >spam email was found in the In mailbox, visible to Wordpad, though not >visible to Eudora. I then opened Eudora, compressed mailboxes, closed >Eudora and verified via Wordpad that the spam was no longer in the In >mailbox. That spam routed thru the In mailbox on its way to Junk. > >Exact same scenario for a message I sent to myself with a word in the >subject for which I had set a filter to send it to junk. Exact same >results. > >How did you verify your findings? It is simpler if the only mail retrieved was junk :) The right number grows in the count/size/waste? display at the bottom.
From: John H Meyers on 6 Feb 2010 18:36 On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 16:06:19 -0600: > How verified: > Start Eudora - Inbox Mailbox Size is ../../0K > Check Mail - one of several msgs was sent to Junk by the > filter. > Inbox Mailbox Size wasted space is still 0K. How do you know that it was not automatically compacted afterwards? --
From: John H Meyers on 8 Feb 2010 13:23 On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:07:46 -0600: > I have to manually compact after any delete and/or transfer. > Is there an option / setting which controls that? Mailboxes are normally automatically compacted when unused space (occupied by deleted or rewritten messages) reaches 50% of total file size. When a mailbox had anything at all stored, and then has everything deleted, leaving 100% of its space unused, it is _always_ above the threshold for compacting, so it will be compacted. --
From: John H Meyers on 8 Feb 2010 18:23 On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:21:11 -0600: > My inbox size fluctuates around 200K, 350K max. There was someone who posted a conclusion that mail could not first have been appended to the "In" mailbox, before being junked, because the "In" mailbox was afterwards always left empty, with no wasted space. Such a conclusion could be mistaken, because an empty mailbox is always compacted upon closing. --
From: John H Meyers on 8 Feb 2010 23:07 On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:53:30 -0600: > There was a post which said > "... look at the count/undeleted/size at the bottom ..." Now that I look back, what you earlier said, on Feb 6, was: > How verified: > Start Eudora - Inbox Mailbox Size is ../..K/0K > Check Mail - one of several msgs was sent to Junk by the filter. > Inbox Mailbox Size wasted space is still 0K. I mistakenly interpreted that as if you meant that the mailbox was left empty of any messages, which would in all cases "compact" it. Well, if the "..K" is large enough that one junked message could not increase its wasted space to 50% of total space, then you are right -- the junked messages could not have been appended to "In" before being junked, and whoever says they first go to "In" would appear to be wrong. --
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