From: TomYoung on
On Feb 13, 6:20 pm, "John Pollard" <8plus7...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Bruce. wrote:
> > "John Pollard" <8plus7...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:hl6joe$nv0$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> >>> So what can I do?  How do I tell Quicken that those are NOT matches
> >>> before accepting?
>
> >> Change the date of the existing Quicken transaction to something
> >> like one year in the future.  That should remove the "near match"
> >> status, and make the downloaded transaction, "New".  After accepting
> >> the downloaded transaction, change the date of the pre-existing
> >> transaction back to the correct date.
>
> > Ok thanks for the idea John.  It there a place where I can report
> > this bug?
>
> It's not a bug.

It's a feature?

Tom Young

From: John Pollard on
TomYoung wrote:
> On Feb 13, 6:20 pm, "John Pollard" <8plus7...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Bruce. wrote:
>>> "John Pollard" <8plus7...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hl6joe$nv0$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> So what can I do? How do I tell Quicken that those are NOT matches
>>>>> before accepting?
>>
>>>> Change the date of the existing Quicken transaction to something
>>>> like one year in the future. That should remove the "near match"
>>>> status, and make the downloaded transaction, "New". After accepting
>>>> the downloaded transaction, change the date of the pre-existing
>>>> transaction back to the correct date.
>>
>>> Ok thanks for the idea John. It there a place where I can report
>>> this bug?
>>
>> It's not a bug.
>
> It's a feature?

As soon as you (and the op) can demonstrate what a "near match" should be,
and why it is not what it should be ... you might have a semblence of
credibility.

--

John Pollard
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Your source of user-to-user Quicken help



From: Notan on
On 2/14/2010 7:44 PM, John Pollard wrote:
> TomYoung wrote:
>> On Feb 13, 6:20 pm, "John Pollard"<8plus7...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Bruce. wrote:
>>>> "John Pollard"<8plus7...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:hl6joe$nv0$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>> So what can I do? How do I tell Quicken that those are NOT matches
>>>>>> before accepting?
>>>
>>>>> Change the date of the existing Quicken transaction to something
>>>>> like one year in the future. That should remove the "near match"
>>>>> status, and make the downloaded transaction, "New". After accepting
>>>>> the downloaded transaction, change the date of the pre-existing
>>>>> transaction back to the correct date.
>>>
>>>> Ok thanks for the idea John. It there a place where I can report
>>>> this bug?
>>>
>>> It's not a bug.
>>
>> It's a feature?
>
> As soon as you (and the op) can demonstrate what a "near match" should be,
> and why it is not what it should be ... you might have a semblence of
> credibility.

Wow. Apparently, along with your ability to be a great resource and help
to many goes a certain degree of pomposity.

Need some help getting that stick removed?

From: TomYoung on
On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, "John Pollard" <8plus7...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> TomYoung wrote:
> > On Feb 13, 6:20 pm, "John Pollard" <8plus7...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Bruce. wrote:
> >>> "John Pollard" <8plus7...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:hl6joe$nv0$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> >>>>> So what can I do? How do I tell Quicken that those are NOT matches
> >>>>> before accepting?
>
> >>>> Change the date of the existing Quicken transaction to something
> >>>> like one year in the future. That should remove the "near match"
> >>>> status, and make the downloaded transaction, "New". After accepting
> >>>> the downloaded transaction, change the date of the pre-existing
> >>>> transaction back to the correct date.
>
> >>> Ok thanks for the idea John. It there a place where I can report
> >>> this bug?
>
> >> It's not a bug.
>
> > It's a feature?
>
> As soon as you (and the op) can demonstrate what a "near match" should be,
> and why it is not what it should be ... you might have a semblence of
> credibility.

I'll be real liberal for this transaction and say:

Date should be within +/- 10 days per register

AND

Shares purchased should be within +/- 100% per register

AND

Amount invested should be within +/- 100% per register

This transaction FAILS on all tests.

Further, having a bail-out option of un-matching (just in case some
similar transactions occur within near proximity of one another) seems
like a reasonable safeguard, as does a manual match in case of user
input error. (I'm assuming the FI info is always correct, which is a
dangerous assumption, but I'll forgo that argument.)

How's that?

Maybe suggest that to Quicken?

Tom Young





From: Jerry Boyle on

"Notan" <notan(a)ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote in message
news:JuGdnZv-hOJWWeXWnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
> On 2/14/2010 7:44 PM, John Pollard wrote:
>> TomYoung wrote:
>>> On Feb 13, 6:20 pm, "John Pollard"<8plus7...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Bruce. wrote:
>>>>> "John Pollard"<8plus7...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:hl6joe$nv0$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>> So what can I do? How do I tell Quicken that those are NOT matches
>>>>>>> before accepting?
>>>>
>>>>>> Change the date of the existing Quicken transaction to something
>>>>>> like one year in the future. That should remove the "near match"
>>>>>> status, and make the downloaded transaction, "New". After accepting
>>>>>> the downloaded transaction, change the date of the pre-existing
>>>>>> transaction back to the correct date.
>>>>
>>>>> Ok thanks for the idea John. It there a place where I can report
>>>>> this bug?
>>>>
>>>> It's not a bug.
>>>
>>> It's a feature?
>>
>> As soon as you (and the op) can demonstrate what a "near match" should
>> be,
>> and why it is not what it should be ... you might have a semblence of
>> credibility.
>
> Wow. Apparently, along with your ability to be a great resource and help
> to many goes a certain degree of pomposity.
>
> Need some help getting that stick removed?

In the face of innumerable possible user errors, including multiple errors
for a single entry, determining what is and is not a possible match is
"indeterminate".

In this case I'd have to agree with John. What happened to the download for
the 1/30 dividend? A second reinvested dividend for (I'm assuming) the same
security within a 2-week period where the first has not yet been cleared is
a "possible" match and it might be safer to flag that possibility, as
Quicken has done.

I think John was addressing only the "near match" issue. I hope he'd agree
that having no simple unmatch feature is a bug.

Jerry