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From: Joerg on 2 May 2010 20:46
Tim Williams wrote:
> "AZ Nomad" <aznomad.3(a)PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in message
> news:slrnhts2q5.so8.aznomad.3(a)ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net...
>> Better yet, give them a URL.
>
> Useful online, but only until links move and die. What if you wanted to
> include videos or sources with a formal document? Links don't work. In the
> old days you could send a floppy, and books are still being printed with
> CDs. But when a CD isn't suitable (>650MB, or physical size, or...), what
> then?
>

That would be called bloat :-)

<ducking for cover>


> Interesting related subject: large quantity products could be programmed in
> mask ROM instead of flash. Equivalent to CD-ROM. Example: send out a book,
> plus its electronic (searchable, interactive, etc.?) form.
>
> Chip manufacturers should make self contained flash, controller and
> ESD-protected dies, and create a package which is literally a USB plug with
> a die glued to it. Dab of epoxy and it's done, no more processing than a
> TQFP. Lugs could be provided to anchor/ground the plug into a larger device
> of familiar size.
>
> Come on, this isn't rocket science. Someone must've thought of this
> before*. Why should IC manufacturers let the assembly houses get all the
> money? They could charge peanuts for these, factory direct, and make a
> killing. Just imagine how many would sell on DealExtreme.
>
> *Copyright Tim Williams 2010, in this post, as prior art, where applicable
>

I think time has already passed this era. Too many people are on the go
now, with devices that do not have USB capability, or anything other
than a charger connection and some docking station thingie.

Nowadays people download whole movies. Not that I like that, I find it a
massive waste of resources.

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From: krw on 2 May 2010 21:05
On Sun, 02 May 2010 16:18:41 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Spehro Pefhany wrote:
>> On Sun, 02 May 2010 13:52:29 -0700, the renowned Joerg
>> <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Tim Williams wrote:
>>>> Why doesn't anyone make small flash drives as replacements for floppies?
>>>> How is it that CDs are the only cheap disposable media? They're way the
>>>> hell too bulky.
>>
>> USB drives (small ones) can be cheaper than return postage. But not as
>> cheap as DVDs. CDs are often more expensive than DVDs.
>>
>
>Yes, occasionally they are even doled out as a freebie.

I've received them from vendors as replacements for their databooks. The 1GB
drive from RedRocket (in the shape of a red rocket) was blank, even. ;-)

>>> Well, there's pocket CDs. Not sure if this is the right kind but it
>>> looks like it:
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00005NHGP?tag=ahomeblog-20
>>>
>>> As CD-RW they are boutique parts and quite expensive:
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Sony-8cm-CD-RW-3-Pack-3MCRW-156A/dp/B00005U241
>>>
>>> At least they are smaller than floppies if that's what you are after.
>>>
>>> [...]
>>
>> They work fine in most desktop computers, but they can't be used in
>> the type of notebook drive that has just a slot (no tray).
>>
>
>You could probably get them in, but not out again :-)
>
>
>> It's a bit irritating to get a bunch of them loaded with catalogs at a
>> trade show and not be able to use them right away. Sometimes they're
>> used to hold drivers on physically small products (eg. Bluetooth USB)
>> so the package size doesn't get bloated.
>>
>
>Many smaller laptops and the netbooks usually don't have a CD drive
>anymore. But most of this stuff is downloadable anyhow.

Since USB drives are now bootable, not having a built-in CD/DVD is often more
than offset by the smaller size.
From: Tim Williams on 2 May 2010 22:48
"Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Nowadays people download whole movies. Not that I like that, I find it a >
> massive waste of resources.

For that purpose, they should implement RFC 2549 nationwide. Easily a
higher datarate than most cablemodems.

Tim

--
Deep Friar: a very philosophical monk.
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From: AZ Nomad on 2 May 2010 23:11
On Sun, 2 May 2010 21:48:15 -0500, Tim Williams <tmoranwms(a)charter.net> wrote:
>"Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>news:846knpFp56U1(a)mid.individual.net...
>> Nowadays people download whole movies. Not that I like that, I find it a >
>> massive waste of resources.

>For that purpose, they should implement RFC 2549 nationwide. Easily a
>higher datarate than most cablemodems.

It doesn't take a lot of bandwidth to handle the kind of storage
available on a cheap USB device. The kind previously described in this
thread could be downloaded in less than a couple of minutes using a cell phone
connection or in less than 20 seconds using a typical home connection.

From: D Yuniskis on 3 May 2010 09:04
Joerg wrote:
> John Larkin wrote:
>> On Sun, 02 May 2010 16:51:15 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Now, a USB drive with integrated bottle opener, that would be
>>> something :-)
>>
>> http://www.eseesky.com/products_show.asp?id=2080
>
> Aha! Finally a real engineer's tool.

I've got one (only 512M, though, as it is older) that uses power
drawn from the USB port to recharge a battery -- that powers a
little LED flashlight. Helpful when I need to peek behind one
of my machines to see what's plugged in where, etc.
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