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From: Slaz on 9 Feb 2010 19:03
Lem wrote:
> Slaz wrote:
>> Lem wrote:
>>> Slaz wrote:
>>>> Using a HP laptop with Windows XP SP3. I have a wireless modem. The
>>>> laptop using it's own built in wireless adapter connects fine.
>>>> I have a USB wireless adapter that I us on the laptop when I'm away
>>>> from home. ( mostly in summer when I'm RVing as I can attach an
>>>> external antenna to it ). Just these past few days I've built a bigger
>>>> and better antenna. When I tried to us the adapter; with it's original
>>>> antenna ( not the new one ); it would connect to my wireless modem and
>>>> shows an excellent signal and link quality; however; I can not connect
>>>> to the internet. I tried the same wireless adapter on my desktop and
>>>> it does work. So it does work; just not on my Laptop. Data encryption
>>>> is via WEP and I did put in the right password as I'm showing a . I
>>>> did turn of my Virus program and my firewall with negative results. Me
>>>> thinks I've changed something somewhere on my laptop and it is
>>>> preventing this wireless adapter from communicating with the internet.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> *What* IP address and Subnet Mask do you get?
>>>
>>> Most likely, you mis-entered the WEP key (you really should be using
>>> WPA2 or WPA).
>>>
>> Getting a IP address of 192.168.254.6 and a subnet of 255.255.255.0
>> I have the right password as I went in and changed it to a "wrong"
>> password and I wouldn't get a Ip address or subnet. When I changed it
>> back to the right password; the Ip and subnet addresses came up.
>
> I apologize. You are authenticating to the wireless router.
>
> Perhaps when you originally configured your router you enabled
> additional security features. For example, some routers can be set to
> deny Internet access to specific computers, either by assigned IP
> address or MAC address. Also, depending on how you turned off your
> firewall, you may not have disabled it for the USB adapter (each network
> connection is firewalled separately; check in "Network Connections").
You forget that I can connect with the laptops own internal adapter. It
is only when I try and us the USB adapter; that I can not connect.
Me thinks I screwed something up. Reason being this past Xmas season we
went to another city and stayed with my in laws who do not have
internet. I was able to connect to the neighbors via the wireless
adapter in question; but not right away and I changed settings back and
forth until I eventually received a connection. The stupid think was
working than; why it won't work now is beyond me. ( The wireless adapter
works on my wife's laptop and my desktop; just not my laptop!)
From: Slaz on 9 Feb 2010 19:19
Jack [MVP-Networking] wrote:
> Hi
> Did you disabled any other Network card while you are using the USB?
> If Not, then try to right click on them and Disable.
> As far as Firewall goes, sometime Disabling it is Not enough, make sure
> that the Firewall Trusted zone covers the subnets that you are using.
> http://www.ezlan.net/faq.html#trusted
> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking).
>
> "Slaz" <theslaz(a)test.net> wrote in message
> news:qEkcn.65104$PH1.62560(a)edtnps82...
>> Lem wrote:
>>> Slaz wrote:
>>>> Using a HP laptop with Windows XP SP3. I have a wireless modem. The
>>>> laptop using it's own built in wireless adapter connects fine.
>>>> I have a USB wireless adapter that I us on the laptop when I'm away
>>>> from home. ( mostly in summer when I'm RVing as I can attach an
>>>> external antenna to it ). Just these past few days I've built a bigger
>>>> and better antenna. When I tried to us the adapter; with it's original
>>>> antenna ( not the new one ); it would connect to my wireless modem and
>>>> shows an excellent signal and link quality; however; I can not connect
>>>> to the internet. I tried the same wireless adapter on my desktop and
>>>> it does work. So it does work; just not on my Laptop. Data encryption
>>>> is via WEP and I did put in the right password as I'm showing a . I
>>>> did turn of my Virus program and my firewall with negative results. Me
>>>> thinks I've changed something somewhere on my laptop and it is
>>>> preventing this wireless adapter from communicating with the internet.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> *What* IP address and Subnet Mask do you get?
>>>
>>> Most likely, you mis-entered the WEP key (you really should be using
>>> WPA2 or WPA).
>>>
>> Getting a IP address of 192.168.254.6 and a subnet of 255.255.255.0
>> I have the right password as I went in and changed it to a "wrong"
>> password and I wouldn't get a Ip address or subnet. When I changed it
>> back to the right password; the Ip and subnet addresses came up.
>
Disabled the Laptops network card with negative results.I use Firefox as
my browser and Thunderbird as my mail reader. They are both in the
trusted zone. I even deleted them and re-entered with negative results.
From: Lem on 9 Feb 2010 19:33
Slaz wrote:
> Lem wrote:
>> Slaz wrote:
>>> Lem wrote:
>>>> Slaz wrote:
>>>>> Using a HP laptop with Windows XP SP3. I have a wireless modem. The
>>>>> laptop using it's own built in wireless adapter connects fine.
>>>>> I have a USB wireless adapter that I us on the laptop when I'm away
>>>>> from home. ( mostly in summer when I'm RVing as I can attach an
>>>>> external antenna to it ). Just these past few days I've built a bigger
>>>>> and better antenna. When I tried to us the adapter; with it's original
>>>>> antenna ( not the new one ); it would connect to my wireless modem and
>>>>> shows an excellent signal and link quality; however; I can not connect
>>>>> to the internet. I tried the same wireless adapter on my desktop and
>>>>> it does work. So it does work; just not on my Laptop. Data encryption
>>>>> is via WEP and I did put in the right password as I'm showing a . I
>>>>> did turn of my Virus program and my firewall with negative results. Me
>>>>> thinks I've changed something somewhere on my laptop and it is
>>>>> preventing this wireless adapter from communicating with the internet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> *What* IP address and Subnet Mask do you get?
>>>>
>>>> Most likely, you mis-entered the WEP key (you really should be using
>>>> WPA2 or WPA).
>>>>
>>> Getting a IP address of 192.168.254.6 and a subnet of 255.255.255.0
>>> I have the right password as I went in and changed it to a "wrong"
>>> password and I wouldn't get a Ip address or subnet. When I changed it
>>> back to the right password; the Ip and subnet addresses came up.
>>
>> I apologize. You are authenticating to the wireless router.
>>
>> Perhaps when you originally configured your router you enabled
>> additional security features. For example, some routers can be set to
>> deny Internet access to specific computers, either by assigned IP
>> address or MAC address. Also, depending on how you turned off your
>> firewall, you may not have disabled it for the USB adapter (each network
>> connection is firewalled separately; check in "Network Connections").
> You forget that I can connect with the laptops own internal adapter. It
> is only when I try and us the USB adapter; that I can not connect.
> Me thinks I screwed something up.

I didn't forget at all. Your USB adapter has a different MAC address
than your built-in adapter. Thus, if you had configured your router to
only permit Internet access to the MAC addresses corresponding to your
built-in adapter, you would see exactly the symptoms your report.

The same holds true for your firewall (see also Jack's comment). As I
wrote, the firewall may well be configured separately for each network
adapter (that's how the built-in Windows XP firewall works). So again,
if you "disabled" the firewall only for the built-in adapter but not for
the USB adapter, you'd get exactly the symptoms you report.

> Reason being this past Xmas season we
> went to another city and stayed with my in laws who do not have
> internet. I was able to connect to the neighbors via the wireless
> adapter in question; but not right away and I changed settings back and
> forth until I eventually received a connection. The stupid think was
> working than; why it won't work now is beyond me. ( The wireless adapter
> works on my wife's laptop and my desktop; just not my laptop!)

Here's another experiment you can try: take your laptop to a public wifi
hotspot (e.g., Starbuck's). First try to connect with the built in
adapter. Assuming that works, *disable* the built-in adapter using
Device Manager and connect the USB adapter, and see if that works.

--
Lem

Apollo 11 - 40 years ago:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/40th/index.html
From: Jack [MVP-Networking] on 9 Feb 2010 21:23
Hi
Allowed applications is Not the Trusted Zone.
Trusted Zone is it range of IPs allowed.
You showed IP 192.168.254.6 So if you put in Trusted Zone 192.168.254.*
Any IP that starts with 192.168.254.x would be allowed to through the
Network.
Jack (MS, MVP-Networking).

"Slaz" <theslaz(a)test.net> wrote in message
news:aYmcn.65118$PH1.4619(a)edtnps82...
> Jack [MVP-Networking] wrote:
>> Hi
>> Did you disabled any other Network card while you are using the USB?
>> If Not, then try to right click on them and Disable.
>> As far as Firewall goes, sometime Disabling it is Not enough, make sure
>> that the Firewall Trusted zone covers the subnets that you are using.
>> http://www.ezlan.net/faq.html#trusted
>> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking).
>>
>> "Slaz" <theslaz(a)test.net> wrote in message
>> news:qEkcn.65104$PH1.62560(a)edtnps82...
>>> Lem wrote:
>>>> Slaz wrote:
>>>>> Using a HP laptop with Windows XP SP3. I have a wireless modem. The
>>>>> laptop using it's own built in wireless adapter connects fine.
>>>>> I have a USB wireless adapter that I us on the laptop when I'm away
>>>>> from home. ( mostly in summer when I'm RVing as I can attach an
>>>>> external antenna to it ). Just these past few days I've built a bigger
>>>>> and better antenna. When I tried to us the adapter; with it's original
>>>>> antenna ( not the new one ); it would connect to my wireless modem and
>>>>> shows an excellent signal and link quality; however; I can not connect
>>>>> to the internet. I tried the same wireless adapter on my desktop and
>>>>> it does work. So it does work; just not on my Laptop. Data encryption
>>>>> is via WEP and I did put in the right password as I'm showing a . I
>>>>> did turn of my Virus program and my firewall with negative results. Me
>>>>> thinks I've changed something somewhere on my laptop and it is
>>>>> preventing this wireless adapter from communicating with the internet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> *What* IP address and Subnet Mask do you get?
>>>>
>>>> Most likely, you mis-entered the WEP key (you really should be using
>>>> WPA2 or WPA).
>>>>
>>> Getting a IP address of 192.168.254.6 and a subnet of 255.255.255.0
>>> I have the right password as I went in and changed it to a "wrong"
>>> password and I wouldn't get a Ip address or subnet. When I changed it
>>> back to the right password; the Ip and subnet addresses came up.
>>
> Disabled the Laptops network card with negative results.I use Firefox as
> my browser and Thunderbird as my mail reader. They are both in the trusted
> zone. I even deleted them and re-entered with negative results.

From: Slaz on 10 Feb 2010 09:42
Jack [MVP-Networking] wrote:
> Hi
> Allowed applications is Not the Trusted Zone.
> Trusted Zone is it range of IPs allowed.
> You showed IP 192.168.254.6 So if you put in Trusted Zone 192.168.254.*
> Any IP that starts with 192.168.254.x would be allowed to through the
> Network.
> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking).
>
> "Slaz" <theslaz(a)test.net> wrote in message
> news:aYmcn.65118$PH1.4619(a)edtnps82...
>> Jack [MVP-Networking] wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> Did you disabled any other Network card while you are using the USB?
>>> If Not, then try to right click on them and Disable.
>>> As far as Firewall goes, sometime Disabling it is Not enough, make sure
>>> that the Firewall Trusted zone covers the subnets that you are using.
>>> http://www.ezlan.net/faq.html#trusted
>>> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking).
>>>
>>> "Slaz" <theslaz(a)test.net> wrote in message
>>> news:qEkcn.65104$PH1.62560(a)edtnps82...
>>>> Lem wrote:
>>>>> Slaz wrote:
>>>>>> Using a HP laptop with Windows XP SP3. I have a wireless modem. The
>>>>>> laptop using it's own built in wireless adapter connects fine.
>>>>>> I have a USB wireless adapter that I us on the laptop when I'm away
>>>>>> from home. ( mostly in summer when I'm RVing as I can attach an
>>>>>> external antenna to it ). Just these past few days I've built a
>>>>>> bigger
>>>>>> and better antenna. When I tried to us the adapter; with it's
>>>>>> original
>>>>>> antenna ( not the new one ); it would connect to my wireless modem
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> shows an excellent signal and link quality; however; I can not
>>>>>> connect
>>>>>> to the internet. I tried the same wireless adapter on my desktop and
>>>>>> it does work. So it does work; just not on my Laptop. Data encryption
>>>>>> is via WEP and I did put in the right password as I'm showing a . I
>>>>>> did turn of my Virus program and my firewall with negative
>>>>>> results. Me
>>>>>> thinks I've changed something somewhere on my laptop and it is
>>>>>> preventing this wireless adapter from communicating with the
>>>>>> internet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>> *What* IP address and Subnet Mask do you get?
>>>>>
>>>>> Most likely, you mis-entered the WEP key (you really should be using
>>>>> WPA2 or WPA).
>>>>>
>>>> Getting a IP address of 192.168.254.6 and a subnet of 255.255.255.0
>>>> I have the right password as I went in and changed it to a "wrong"
>>>> password and I wouldn't get a Ip address or subnet. When I changed it
>>>> back to the right password; the Ip and subnet addresses came up.
>>>
>> Disabled the Laptops network card with negative results.I use Firefox
>> as my browser and Thunderbird as my mail reader. They are both in the
>> trusted zone. I even deleted them and re-entered with negative results.
>
Thanks for your trouble. I will look into that.
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