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From: geoff on 23 May 2010 11:13 In message <xxNgOiBX6T+LFwTT(a)nospam.demon.co.uk>, Graeme <Graeme(a)nospam.demon.co.uk> writes >In message <Ycw1JXADiS+LFwFV(a)bancom.co.uk>, tony sayer ><tony(a)bancom.co.uk> writes > >>I've used Turnpike v 5.02 for years now and often wondered if there was >>anything better as a news reader and can't say I've come across anything >>better as yet;! > >Tony, I agree. However, TP will not work 'out of the box' with Windows >7, so I'm reading this thread with interest. My machine is running XP >with TP 6.06, but I suppose the time will come when a new PC will >arrive with W7. It works with 32 bit, just not the 64 bit version > >The comments regarding news are interesting, but how about groups, >specifically Yahoo Groups. Will Thunderbird or Agent thread those like >Usenet? That is a TP feature I could not live without. > >Thinking aloud, I suppose there is nothing to stop me running two or >three news readers simultaneously, just to see how each looks and >performs? Presumably, each would fetch news independently of the others? > -- geoff
From: Rod on 23 May 2010 11:27 On 23/05/2010 15:41, Graeme wrote: > In message <Ycw1JXADiS+LFwFV(a)bancom.co.uk>, tony sayer > <tony(a)bancom.co.uk> writes > >> I've used Turnpike v 5.02 for years now and often wondered if there was >> anything better as a news reader and can't say I've come across anything >> better as yet;! > > Tony, I agree. However, TP will not work 'out of the box' with Windows > 7, so I'm reading this thread with interest. My machine is running XP > with TP 6.06, but I suppose the time will come when a new PC will arrive > with W7. > > The comments regarding news are interesting, but how about groups, > specifically Yahoo Groups. Will Thunderbird or Agent thread those like > Usenet? That is a TP feature I could not live without. > > Thinking aloud, I suppose there is nothing to stop me running two or > three news readers simultaneously, just to see how each looks and > performs? Presumably, each would fetch news independently of the others? > Thunderbird will thread Yahoo emails (I get individual emails of all posts for the groups I am interested in). Trouble is that so many people post in ways that mean they are not threaded even viewed within the group. Thins like starting a new topic by replying to an existing post and changing the subject. Or just posting a disconnected message without making any attempt to place it in a thread. -- Rod
From: tony sayer on 23 May 2010 11:42 In article <xxNgOiBX6T+LFwTT(a)nospam.demon.co.uk>, Graeme <Graeme(a)nospam.demon.co.uk> scribeth thus >In message <Ycw1JXADiS+LFwFV(a)bancom.co.uk>, tony sayer ><tony(a)bancom.co.uk> writes > >>I've used Turnpike v 5.02 for years now and often wondered if there was >>anything better as a news reader and can't say I've come across anything >>better as yet;! > >Tony, I agree. However, TP will not work 'out of the box' with Windows >7, so I'm reading this thread with interest. My machine is running XP >with TP 6.06, but I suppose the time will come when a new PC will arrive >with W7. > Windoze 7 what's that;?... >The comments regarding news are interesting, but how about groups, >specifically Yahoo Groups. Will Thunderbird or Agent thread those like >Usenet? That is a TP feature I could not live without. Never bothered with Yahoo groups as such the ones I use are all sent via e-mail.. > >Thinking aloud, I suppose there is nothing to stop me running two or >three news readers simultaneously, just to see how each looks and >performs? Presumably, each would fetch news independently of the >others? > Never tried it but I reckon you can do it.. -- Tony Sayer
From: BillW50 on 23 May 2010 13:45 BillW50 wrote on Sat, 22 May 2010 14:09:23 -0500: > In news:HcOdnQWXddx1lWXWnZ2dnUVZ7rKdnZ2d(a)brightview.co.uk, > John Rumm typed on Sat, 22 May 2010 17:40:09 +0100: >> On 22/05/2010 16:40, BillW50 wrote: >>> Thunderbird doesn't call them Watched threads like OE does. But you >>> can >> <panto mode> >> >> Oh yes it does! >> >> </panto mode> > > The older versions didn't call them watched. I think 3.0 now does. It > takes Mozilla many years to make one simple change to a very old > mistake. But then again Mozilla programmers love to show off how > inferior their programming abilities are. They believe in making things > as difficult as possible. Hello John! Okay I just fired up all three versions of Thunderbird (1.5, 2.0, and 3.0). And you are right, all of them have a watch option. The sad news though the watch toggle is very limited under all of these versions of Thunderbird. As you can only do one thing with it. As you can only see only unread watched threads and that is all. You can't see or review already read watched threads or anything. And all three versions the Message Filters are very limiting. None of them can see anything within a message itself. Not even the search will let you see inside of a message. Say for example, months from now you recall somebody mentioning something about Turnpike. And at the time you were not really interested. But now you are. And there is nothing within Thunderbird at all that will help you find it. I personally see Thunderbird having only a very limited feature set and that is all. And even some of the most basic features, makes you go through a lot of unnecessary work. Take for example, I read from like 10 different servers. Many of the settings are the same for each one. Take the signature for example. Just to change the signature, I have to change all 10 of them from different servers. They could have made this all so much easier. -- Bill Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03)
From: AJL on 23 May 2010 14:09
Bruce <docnews2011(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On Sat, 22 May 2010 21:55:55 +0100, Tim Watts <tw(a)dionic.net> wrote: >>On 22/05/10 20:48, Bruce wrote: >>> I have used Forte Agent for many years now. Originally there was a >>> stripped-down free version, but that soon changed so it has to be paid >>> for. But I find it incredibly intuitive to use. >>> >>> Recently I looked at Thunderbird as an alternative to upgrading to the >>> latest version of Agent. I found it was clunky and difficult to >>> understand. After about an hour I gave up and happily upgraded Agent >>> to the current version. >> >>I used Agent about 12 years back - and it was good then too. I quite >>liked it. > > >I think that's called "damning with faint praise". I've been using Agent since the middle 90s. (Got this particular upgrade in 2002.) Still downloads my songs, books and this very silly chatter just fine. What more could a fella want... ;) |