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From: "Dave "Crash" Dummy" on 14 Sep 2010 15:28
OK, so Microsoft is going out of the NNTP business. Why can't I find a
scripting forum?

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~ Samuel Johnson ~
From: ekkehard.horner on 14 Sep 2010 17:18
Dave "Crash" Dummy schrieb:
> OK, so Microsoft is going out of the NNTP business. Why can't I find a
> scripting forum?
>
Take your pick:

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/ITCG/threads
http://www.visualbasicscript.com/
http://www.tek-tips.com/threadminder.cfm?pid=329&page=1

but don't give up on microsoft.public.scripting.vbscript either -
a newsgroup is made by its 'members'.
From: "Dave "Crash" Dummy" on 14 Sep 2010 17:41
ekkehard.horner wrote:
> Dave "Crash" Dummy schrieb:
>> OK, so Microsoft is going out of the NNTP business. Why can't I
>> find a scripting forum?
>>
> Take your pick:
>
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/ITCG/threads
> http://www.visualbasicscript.com/
> http://www.tek-tips.com/threadminder.cfm?pid=329&page=1
>
> but don't give up on microsoft.public.scripting.vbscript either - a
> newsgroup is made by its 'members'.

I'm here, aren't I? I hope this group stays alive and active forever.
What got me riled up is that I just installed a NNTP bridge for the MS
forums, and couldn't find any groups with "scripting" or "vbscript" in
the name. Only one of the three you listed is Microsoft, and ITCG is not
a very obvious reference for VBScript. (I haven't looked at it yet.) If
Microsoft is going to replace NNTP with forums, it should provide
suitable replacements for all its newsgroups, not just Windows for Dummies.

I really don't like forums. I am only grudgingly looking at them because
the bridge lets me pretend they are newsgroups.

--
Crash

One man's weed is another man's wildflower.
From: Mayayana on 14 Sep 2010 18:32
| What got me riled up is that I just installed a NNTP bridge for the MS
| forums, and couldn't find any groups with "scripting" or "vbscript" in
| the name.

The "scripting guys" forum is a useless joke.
Unsurprisingly, most of the posts don't even specify
a language. The MSDN forums have more
scripting than the technet forums, but as far as
I know there's just limited coverage of javascript.

In general the forums are designed to be
marketing venues for products being pushed. I
think it's misleading to think of them as the
replacement of newsgroups. Rather, Microsoft
is ending their tradition of hosting customer
self-help discussions. Period. They're also
instituting moderated forums for marketing
purposes. To say that the former is being *replaced*
by the latter is just a scam, like .Net "replacing"
compiled software.


From: Al Dunbar on 15 Sep 2010 00:13


"Mayayana" <mayayana(a)invalid.nospam> wrote in message
news:i6ot25$7gf$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> | What got me riled up is that I just installed a NNTP bridge for the MS
> | forums, and couldn't find any groups with "scripting" or "vbscript" in
> | the name.
>
> The "scripting guys" forum is a useless joke.
> Unsurprisingly, most of the posts don't even specify
> a language. The MSDN forums have more
> scripting than the technet forums, but as far as
> I know there's just limited coverage of javascript.
>
> In general the forums are designed to be
> marketing venues for products being pushed. I
> think it's misleading to think of them as the
> replacement of newsgroups. Rather, Microsoft
> is ending their tradition of hosting customer
> self-help discussions. Period. They're also
> instituting moderated forums for marketing
> purposes. To say that the former is being *replaced*
> by the latter is just a scam, like .Net "replacing"
> compiled software.

At the last MVP Global Summit I attended, I was invited to a session at
which we discussed where things were going with newsgroups and forums. At
the time I kind of saw the writing on the wall. The MS people weren't so
much looking for a way to kill the newsgroups as hoping they could keep
something of their spirit going. Any attempt to provide usenet access to the
forums and/or forum access to the newsgroups seemed unlikely to succeed
because they are too different to coexist.

In fairness to MS, they are a business, and business *is* all about
marketing. I don't know of many other companies that have done as much to
support the various communities that have grown up around their products,
with the possible exception of Digital Equipment and the DECUS organization
of a few decades ago. Compaq bought Digital and HP bought Compaq, and where
is DECUS now?

DECUS was all about in-person symposia, which became a rather expensive way
to get technical information in the WWW era, to which it eventually
succumbed.

/Al

PS: That wasn't a rhetorical question: here's the answer: DECUS (DECUS
Canada, that is) is here: http://www.encompasscanada.org/, where the biggest
actual news is from 2007 - an event held by the only LUG (Local User Group)
to survive all the changes in organization. And, yes, that's me fourth from
the left in my MVP shirt!
(DECUS US is at www.decus.org and www.encompassus.org, both of which are
dead links)

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