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From: Barry Margolin on 24 May 2010 23:02
In article <1jj0eni.1qnspm01c221h0N%nospam(a)see.signature>,
nospam(a)see.signature (Richard Maine) wrote:

> Charles <fort514(a)mac.com> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <michelle-80CE13.16455424052010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi>,
> > Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Therefore, I expect that all they have in the rooms is ethernet. So, as I
> > > said, I'm taking my Airport Express with me, so I'll be able to connect my
> > > iPhone via WiFi instead of AT&T Wireless when I'm in my room.
> >
> > Sounds like a plan. I have run into the same situation. Ethernet in
> > rooms and Wi Fi only in public areas.
>
> The place I was in 3 weeks ago only claimed WiFi in the public areas,
> with ethernet in the rooms, but my daughter's fairly new Macbook was
> able to get on fine from our room. My 4-year-old MacBook Pro (handed
> down from my daughter when it started getting flaky about charging; she
> needed something reliable for schoolwork, while my portable needs were
> only for keeping in touch on vacations) could not get a reliable signal
> in the room. I needed to either go to a public area or borrow a cable
> from the front desk. I had not thought to bring one, but they had them
> there.

The last hotel I was at had both Ethernet and WiFi in the rooms. It
wasn't until the 2nd or 3rd night that I discovered that $12/day charge
was only for Ethernet, WiFi was free. I still don't understand the
reasoning behind that, since they all end up going through the same pipe
to the ISP.

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Arlington, MA
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From: marco on 24 May 2010 23:56
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

>
> You're both missing an important point in my original message.

iPhone's got no ethernet ?
From: Glen Labah on 25 May 2010 00:19
In article <240520102056416139%fort514(a)mac.com>,
Charles <fort514(a)mac.com> wrote:

> In article <htf5nr$ult$1(a)news.albasani.net>, Joseph Capgras
> <sosies(a)double.net> wrote:
>
> > Or you could just pack a cable-- or use the one in your room there-- or
> > borrow one from the front desk...
>
> Besides being tethered to a desk, one would be sharing the hotel
> network with who knows what security. With the Airport Express her
> laptop will be behind a NAT router. I always take my Airport Express
> and if there is Ethernet I use that with the AE rather than the hotel
> WiFi.


No it won't!

Because she won't be using a laptop. She said she was taking it for use
with her iPhone!

(Of course, having to take a network device like an AirPort that is
several times larger than her iPhone seems like a bit of irony.)

Just out of curiosity, I decided to plug in my laptop on my latest trip
from Portland to Seattle on Amtrak. The Pacific Parlor Car (the first
class lounge car for those with tickets in the compartment sleepers) has
free WiFi, and since that uses the same route I thought it might be
interesting to see what the AirPort in my PowerBook could see.

When crossing the Columbia River into Washington I started to be able to
pick up some coffee shop in the Vancouver, Washington area. I also
picked up a few secure networks. Other than that, I didn't pick up much
of anything.

i can't help but wonder what methods are used to get the signal to the
moving train in the first place, especially in the many tunnels south of
Eugene.

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From: JF Mezei on 25 May 2010 00:28
marco wrote:
> Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

>> You're both missing an important point in my original message.
>
> iPhone's got no ethernet ?


No. Michelle is going to her 50th annyversary highschool reunion !


Says a lot about society when, for a short trip, ethernet cables and an
airport hub are as important as underwear and a toothbrush !!!!
From: JF Mezei on 25 May 2010 00:31
Glen Labah wrote:

> i can't help but wonder what methods are used to get the signal to the
> moving train in the first place, especially in the many tunnels south of
> Eugene.

Satellite links with fallback to mobile phone links to a hub on the
train, and then to cells in each car.

Your laptop is connected to an antenna inside your car, so you dfon't
lose WiFi when going through tunnels, but your packets don't go to/from
the internet.
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