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From: dlzc on 18 Jun 2010 15:52 Dear EricP: On Jun 18, 7:57 am, EricP <ThatWouldBeTell...(a)thevillage.com> wrote: > dlzc wrote: > > > A megaton nuclear weapon "converts" a few > > nanograms of mass to energy (the rest is there > > just for chance). > > 1 megaton TNT = 4.184e15 joules > E=MC^2 = 9.0e16 J/Kg > > 1 megaton = 46.49 grams. Thanks for the correction. Got a bad relation in my head. Maybe it is the ratio of explosive mass, to the amount that actually "goes missing". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNT_equivalent#Examples .... 2kg equates to 42.96 Mt, or 1 Mt = 21.48 gm (if Wikipedia is to be believed.) And the other's point about the OP meaning chip manufacturing vs. the chips from machining a block of material is well taken. The equivalent "hand grenade" explosion of converting a dust mote to energy, somehow avoiding destroying the chip circuitry and its various photo processes, will still be unworkable. David A. Smith
From: Archimedes' Lever on 18 Jun 2010 16:07 On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 12:52:09 -0700 (PDT), dlzc <dlzc1(a)cox.net> wrote: >And the other's point about the OP meaning chip manufacturing vs. the >chips from machining a block of material is well taken. The >equivalent "hand grenade" explosion of converting a dust mote to >energy, somehow avoiding destroying the chip circuitry and its various >photo processes, will still be unworkable. > >David A. Smith Are matter anti-matter annihilations being observed in uni labs on a regular basis? Common sense is the rule of the day. A puff of wind provides all the action reaction energy we need to move a dust particle through sea level atmosphere. Why burn more than needed?
From: Benj on 18 Jun 2010 16:54 On Jun 18, 11:17 am, FatBytestard <FatBytest...(a)somewheronyourharddrive.org> wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 07:32:36 -0700 (PDT), Benj <bjac...(a)iwaynet.net> > wrote: > >Lessee. Obviously you are an "idea man" rather than someone who works > >out the mundane details! I don't know. maybe a giant laser or nuclear > >reactor or perhaps an LHC would be the way to go to "smash" dust > >particles in chip manufacture rather than the usual fans and filters. > >I mean how much more could it cost? > > Jeez, you are even more stupid than he is! And obviously you are another "idea man" even more stooopid than I am!
From: George Neuner on 18 Jun 2010 17:20 On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 13:07:40 -0700, Archimedes' Lever <OneBigLever(a)InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote: > Are matter anti-matter annihilations being observed in uni labs on a >regular basis? Yes ... and in (big) hospitals too. Google "PET scan". George
From: EricP on 18 Jun 2010 18:22
dlzc wrote: > Dear EricP: > > On Jun 18, 7:57 am, EricP <ThatWouldBeTell...(a)thevillage.com> wrote: >> dlzc wrote: >> >>> A megaton nuclear weapon "converts" a few >>> nanograms of mass to energy (the rest is there >>> just for chance). >> 1 megaton TNT = 4.184e15 joules >> E=MC^2 = 9.0e16 J/Kg >> >> 1 megaton = 46.49 grams. > > Thanks for the correction. Got a bad relation in my head. Maybe it > is the ratio of explosive mass, to the amount that actually "goes > missing". > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNT_equivalent#Examples > .... 2kg equates to 42.96 Mt, or 1 Mt = 21.48 gm (if Wikipedia is to be > believed.) Unfortunately that Wikipedia value of 17.975e16 J/kg is wrong. In SI units, a joule = newton*meter = (kg*m/s^2)*m = kg*m^2/s^2 = kg*(m/s)^2 E = MC^2 ~= 1.0 kg *(3e8 m/s)^2 = 9e16 J Eric |