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From: Peter on 6 Aug 2010 19:35
"Robert Coe" <bob(a)1776.COM> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 17:09:03 -0400, "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net>
> wrote:
> : "Scotius" <yodasbud(a)mnsi.net> wrote in message
> : news:9sto56d3um6a055ijt34a7as5k89lu98mh(a)4ax.com...
> : > On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 22:38:16 -0500, Cynicor
> : > <j..tru.p.i.n...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote:
> : >
> : >>NYC has rules now that you can't photograph from a bridge. However,
> : >>there are no rules saying you can't photograph the bridge itself. I
> took
> : >>this just off the Belt Parkway tonight, and fought off a rat between
> my
> : >>tripod and my car door on the way back!
> : >>
> : >>http://trupin.smugmug.com/gallery/954699/1/44216856
> : >>http://trupin.smugmug.com/gallery/954699/1/44220725
> : >
> : > Anyone trained to place explosives in even the most basic way
> : > could take one look at a bridge and know exactly where to put them,
> : > I'm sure.
> : > Therefore, the rules regarding not being able to take pictures
> : > from bridges are not for the reasons they claim they are.
> :
> :
> : NYC has no rule prohibiting photos from or of bridges. The MTA has such
> a
> : rule as to their bridges, but it is rarely enforced. Also their is no
> MTA
> : bridge that has a walkway..
>
> How do you account for the prohibition of photography on the George
> Washington
> Bridge?
>
> My wife is afraid to drive on the bridge, so we have an understood
> division of
> labor: I drive, and she takes the obligatory pictures of the "no
> photography"
> signs. ;^)



It is not a NYC bridge. It comes under the jurisdiction of the Port
Authority. Although they have lots of no photography signs, the rule is not
usually enforced. Also taking pictures of the bridge itself is not
prohibited., but may be restricted. the non-stated reason is revenue
generation.

http://www.panynj.gov/press-room/media-access.html

Correction:
In my prior message I typed referred to "MTA." I should have stated that
Photography is not addressed directly in the regulations, however signs are
posted that prohibit photography. (You figure that one out.)

Any inconvenience that may have been caused by this error is deeply
regretted.

--
Peter

From: Peter on 6 Aug 2010 19:38
"Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote in message
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> "Robert Coe" <bob(a)1776.COM> wrote in message
> news:jm4p565fvqhmvilna4648o22pav88o4m87(a)4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 17:09:03 -0400, "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net>
>> wrote:
>> : "Scotius" <yodasbud(a)mnsi.net> wrote in message
>> : news:9sto56d3um6a055ijt34a7as5k89lu98mh(a)4ax.com...
>> : > On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 22:38:16 -0500, Cynicor
>> : > <j..tru.p.i.n...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> : >
>> : >>NYC has rules now that you can't photograph from a bridge. However,
>> : >>there are no rules saying you can't photograph the bridge itself. I
>> took
>> : >>this just off the Belt Parkway tonight, and fought off a rat between
>> my
>> : >>tripod and my car door on the way back!
>> : >>
>> : >>http://trupin.smugmug.com/gallery/954699/1/44216856
>> : >>http://trupin.smugmug.com/gallery/954699/1/44220725
>> : >
>> : > Anyone trained to place explosives in even the most basic way
>> : > could take one look at a bridge and know exactly where to put them,
>> : > I'm sure.
>> : > Therefore, the rules regarding not being able to take pictures
>> : > from bridges are not for the reasons they claim they are.
>> :
>> :
>> : NYC has no rule prohibiting photos from or of bridges. The MTA has such
>> a
>> : rule as to their bridges, but it is rarely enforced. Also their is no
>> MTA
>> : bridge that has a walkway..
>>
>> How do you account for the prohibition of photography on the George
>> Washington
>> Bridge?
>>
>> My wife is afraid to drive on the bridge, so we have an understood
>> division of
>> labor: I drive, and she takes the obligatory pictures of the "no
>> photography"
>> signs. ;^)
>
>
>
> It is not a NYC bridge. It comes under the jurisdiction of the Port
> Authority. Although they have lots of no photography signs, the rule is
> not usually enforced. Also taking pictures of the bridge itself is not
> prohibited., but may be restricted. the non-stated reason is revenue
> generation.
>
> http://www.panynj.gov/press-room/media-access.html
>
> Correction:
> In my prior message I typed referred to "MTA." I should have stated that
> Photography is not addressed directly in the regulations, however signs
> are posted that prohibit photography. (You figure that one out.)
>
> Any inconvenience that may have been caused by this error is deeply
> regretted.
>



I also left off this link, which summarizes the rule in NYC
http://www.nycphotorights.com/laws/



--
Peter

From: Scotius on 6 Aug 2010 22:09
On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 17:11:30 -0400, tony cooper
<tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 16:59:33 -0400, Scotius <yodasbud(a)mnsi.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 22:38:16 -0500, Cynicor
>><j..tru.p.i.n...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>
>>>NYC has rules now that you can't photograph from a bridge. However,
>>>there are no rules saying you can't photograph the bridge itself. I took
>>>this just off the Belt Parkway tonight, and fought off a rat between my
>>>tripod and my car door on the way back!
>>>
>>>http://trupin.smugmug.com/gallery/954699/1/44216856
>>>http://trupin.smugmug.com/gallery/954699/1/44220725
>>
>> Anyone trained to place explosives in even the most basic way
>>could take one look at a bridge and know exactly where to put them,
>>I'm sure.
>> Therefore, the rules regarding not being able to take pictures
>>from bridges are not for the reasons they claim they are.
>
>I'm not of the opinion that the bad guys take pictures of bridges in
>order to blow them up, but your comment is not particularly logical as
>a reason a photograph would not be needed to blow up a bridge.
>
>The bad guy explosive expert could take a photograph of the bridge in
>order to provide a diagram for his underlings to use as a map in
>placing the charges. The guys actually placing the charges may not be
>explosives experts.
>
>If I'm running a terrorist group, I'm not sending my explosive expert
>out on the bridge. I'm going send more expendable troops out with
>just enough training to know how, but not necessarily where, to place
>the charges.

I didn't think of that... good thinking.
From: Scotius on 6 Aug 2010 22:10
On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 18:54:36 -0400, Robert Coe <bob(a)1776.COM> wrote:

>On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 16:59:33 -0400, Scotius <yodasbud(a)mnsi.net> wrote:
>: On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 22:38:16 -0500, Cynicor
>: <j..tru.p.i.n...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote:
>:
>: >NYC has rules now that you can't photograph from a bridge. However,
>: >there are no rules saying you can't photograph the bridge itself. I took
>: >this just off the Belt Parkway tonight, and fought off a rat between my
>: >tripod and my car door on the way back!
>: >
>: >http://trupin.smugmug.com/gallery/954699/1/44216856
>: >http://trupin.smugmug.com/gallery/954699/1/44220725
>:
>: Anyone trained to place explosives in even the most basic way
>: could take one look at a bridge and know exactly where to put them,
>: I'm sure.
>: Therefore, the rules regarding not being able to take pictures
>: from bridges are not for the reasons they claim they are.
>
>Of course they're not. Undoubtedly they're so that the photographer can't show
>the public how poorly the bridges are maintained.
>
>Bob

Actually, that's good thinking too. And now that I think of
it, you're probably quite right.
From: SneakyP on 6 Aug 2010 23:15
"Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote in
news:4c5c9c73$0$5492$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com:


>
> Correction:
> In my prior message I typed referred to "MTA." I should have stated
> that Photography is not addressed directly in the regulations, however
> signs are posted that prohibit photography. (You figure that one out.)
>
> Any inconvenience that may have been caused by this error is deeply
> regretted.
>

Another possibility is that maybe picture takers would have slowed or stopped
traffic?


--
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