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From: Lars Enderin on 25 May 2010 18:01
On 2010-05-25 23:31, Rhino wrote:
>
> The good news is that I found what I wanted a different way. The Advanced
> Google Groups search page has a special search box at the bottom that
> lets you input a Message-ID. I realized that is the name of the thing I
> want. I did a fresh search on "Google message-id" and found instructions
> on how to get the messsage-ID for any message: just go to the message
> itself, click on "Show Original" and look for the Message-ID field in the
> header, roughly in the middle. In my case, that is
> Xns9D3CA11E0D2F4noofflinecontactplea(a)202.177.16.121.
>
> If I then go to the Groups Advanced Search page at
> http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=& and plug in the message-ID
> in the very bottom search box, it takes me directly to my post.
>
> That could be very handy in giving people references to past threads so
> I'm including all the information here in case it helps anyone else down
> the road.

The bad news is that the message id is not very useful if you want to be
taken directly to the thread without firing up Google Groups first. You
need a complete URL.
From: Rhino on 25 May 2010 20:56
Lars Enderin <lars.enderin(a)telia.com> wrote in
news:4BFC48C5.7000502(a)telia.com:

> On 2010-05-25 23:31, Rhino wrote:
>>
>> The good news is that I found what I wanted a different way. The
>> Advanced Google Groups search page has a special search box at the
>> bottom that lets you input a Message-ID. I realized that is the name
>> of the thing I want. I did a fresh search on "Google message-id" and
>> found instructions on how to get the messsage-ID for any message:
>> just go to the message itself, click on "Show Original" and look for
>> the Message-ID field in the header, roughly in the middle. In my
>> case, that is Xns9D3CA11E0D2F4noofflinecontactplea(a)202.177.16.121.
>>
>> If I then go to the Groups Advanced Search page at
>> http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=& and plug in the
>> message-ID in the very bottom search box, it takes me directly to my
>> post.
>>
>> That could be very handy in giving people references to past threads
>> so I'm including all the information here in case it helps anyone
>> else down the road.
>
> The bad news is that the message id is not very useful if you want to
> be taken directly to the thread without firing up Google Groups first.
> You need a complete URL.
>

Agreed. That's why John's method looked promising. But I must have made
some kind of bad assumption in trying it because I didn't get what he
said I'd get. I just can't think of what I did wrong so maybe he could
clarify/elaborate just a bit....

--
Rhino
From: John B. Matthews on 25 May 2010 21:35
In article <Xns9D83B234F53B0noofflinecontactplea(a)94.75.214.39>,
Rhino <no.offline.contact.please(a)example.com> wrote:

> > "Active older topics" has a link to your thread, "Design Questions
> > about static factory classes":
> >
> I did what you suggested and got as far as seeing "Active Older
> Topics" (small area over on the right in the center) but there were
> only three topics listed, none of which was the one I wanted. There
> was also no obvious way to scroll through down to see more. I
> probably could have just kept clicking the "Older" link down at the
> bottom but I would have had to scroll a lot of timees to get to the
> one I wanted. Did I misunderstand your instructions?

I see about a dozen "Active older topics," but it seem me as logged into
a gmail account. That may explain the UI disparity.

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John B. Matthews
trashgod at gmail dot com
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From: John B. Matthews on 25 May 2010 21:50
In article <Xns9D83D5054FD7noofflinecontactplea(a)94.75.214.39>,
Rhino <no.offline.contact.please(a)example.com> wrote:

> Lars Enderin <lars.enderin(a)telia.com> wrote in
> news:4BFC48C5.7000502(a)telia.com:
>
> > On 2010-05-25 23:31, Rhino wrote:
> >> [...]
> >> If I then go to the Groups Advanced Search page at
> >> http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=& and plug in the
> >> message-ID in the very bottom search box, it takes me directly to
> >> my post.
> >>
> >> That could be very handy in giving people references to past threads
> >> so I'm including all the information here in case it helps anyone
> >> else down the road.
> >
> > The bad news is that the message id is not very useful if you want
> > to be taken directly to the thread without firing up Google Groups
> > first. You need a complete URL.
> >
>
> Agreed. That's why John's method looked promising. But I must have
> made some kind of bad assumption in trying it because I didn't get
> what he said I'd get. I just can't think of what I did wrong so maybe
> he could clarify/elaborate just a bit....

I speculated about login up-thread.

Another useful technique is clicking "More options" then "individual
message," which produces a link to a single post instead of the entire
thread:

<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/msg/6f3686a7650d2d87>

--
John B. Matthews
trashgod at gmail dot com
<http://sites.google.com/site/drjohnbmatthews>
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