From: G=EMC^2 Glazier on
Yes Sam 'black when they are in the Sun(during light),but they get
insulation at night(no Sun) Get the picture Sam. I think you are so low
brained I have to spell out stuff to get it to sink into your tiny low
wit parrot brain. You brain is a never was and never be a thinker Sam go
straight to Google "Its the only friend for you' Oi Ya Bert

From: habshi on
The problem of energy storage seems to have been solved

excerpt
http://www.energymatters.com.au/index.php?main_page=news_article&article_id=678

Using hydrogen as a clean fuel with relatively endless reserves
certainly has potential, but also faces many challenges. For example,
the production of hydrogen requires a great deal of energy.

However, some companies have made great inroads in utilising renewable
energy sources such as wind and solar power in the hydrogen harvesting
process. One such company is Avalence LLC; based in the USA.

Avalence�s hydrogen generators are electrochemical devices that
convert water and electricity into high purity pressurized hydrogen
gas through the process of electrolysis. Avalence's Hydrofiller system
is a high-pressure hydrogen gas generator that doesn't require a
separate compressor. According to the company, this cuts capital costs
by up to 50% and operating costs by 20%.

Given the lower energy requirements, it also means the Hydrofiller
system can be powered by solar panels or wind turbines.

The company says electrolysis is the most direct method for creating
hydrogen fuel from fluctuating renewable energy sources. The Avalence
Hydrofiller enables 24-hour electricity availability from intermittent
energy sources from not just solar and wind, but also hydraulic and
tidal power. In large applications, hydrogen produced during
inexpensive or excess power production periods can be stored and later
distributed to stationary fuel cell generators to supply electricity
during expensive or peak demand periods.

From: habshi on
excerpt

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/rob-magazine/5-businesses-that-will-save-the-world/article1375975/

In Germany alone, the renewable energy industry has created more than
a quarter of a million new jobs in the decade since the Bundestag
passed the world�s most ambitious green-power legislation in 2000�this
without introducing any new taxes and at a total cost to the average
German household of about $50 per year. This �feed-in tariff� model,
which requires utilities to purchase renewable electricity at
above-market prices, has been quickly copied across Western Europe,
most of which is at least a generation ahead of Canada in the shift to
a sustainable low-emissions economy.

There�s enough energy in the world�s crust to create all the
electricity the world needs,� says Fairbank, president and CEO of the
Vancouver-based firm. South of the border, there�s been something of a
geothermal boom going on for about five years. The U.S. already has
3,000 MW

But the real future of geothermal may lie in the dry heat that is
trapped in rock, which, unlike trapped pockets of hot water, can be
found under any point on the Earth�s surface. At a depth of 3,000 to
4,500 metres, the rock temperature is about 150 C to 250 C, which is
the economic sweet spot for geothermal projects (any deeper and the
costs become extortionate). Engineers can force water through natural
or engineered fractures so that it gathers up heat before it�s pumped
back as steam to drive turbines. There are still formidable obstacles:
Drilling even a few thousand metres is costly, and techniques

The group�s technical point of departure is that the solar radiation
striking the Earth�s 36 million square kilometres of desert in a
six-hour period is approximately equivalent to the world�s annual
fossil fuel energy production. �Any conceivable global demand of
energy, today or in the future, could be produced from solar energy in
deserts,� according to a technical report produced for Desertec. Not
bad for a morning�s work.

Desertec�s backers are proposing a series of concentrated solar
thermal plants, with banks of reflectors directing the sunlight onto
liquid-filled tubes. The superheated fluid is used to drive turbines
and generate electricity. There
In September, Norway-based Statoil ASA, the world�s largest offshore
fossil-fuel producer, added a strange new device to its vast array of
North Sea energy installations: the world�s first floating
industrial-scale wind turbine. Dubbed �Hywind,� the new project is an
unlikely hybrid of a standard wind turbine and the mooring system used
to stabilize oil rigs in the high seas.

The technology is off-the-shelf and deceptively straightforward: Take
an oil platform�s �Spar-buoy��a 100-metre-tall ballast tank tethered
to the seafloor, up to 700 metres below, by three thick cables�and
crown it with a 2.3 MW Siemens wind turbine. Install enough turbines
in one spot to justify the cost of the submarine transmission cable,
and then figure out how to keep them humming as they rock and sway in
the pounding waves. If you can manage all that, you might just capture
a new segment of the booming wind-power market�with economic potential
exponentially larger than any wind sources yet uncovered. �The problem
with most renewables is that they don�t add up,� says Statoil�s Brage
Waarheim Johansen. �This can add up.�

The price tag�about $80 million to keep a single test turbine moored
and spinning out juice from 10 kilometres off Norway�s coast for two
years�is still far too steep for the mass market. But Statoil is
confi-dent the technology and the economics are sound, and Johansen
and his colleagues are already envisioning enough floating windmills
to power all of Norway�and perhaps, one day, enough installed up and
down the long, heavily populated coasts of North America to
fundamentally

From: habshi on
Solar power now cheaper than coal power , thanks to plastics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h9FLvj2ZJM&feature=rec-HM-r2

Also how plants do it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj_WKgnL6MI
From: Marvin the Martian on
On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:26:16 +0000, habshi wrote:

> The problem of energy storage seems to have been solved
>
> excerpt
> http://www.energymatters.com.au/index.php?
main_page=news_article&article_id=678
>
> Using hydrogen as a clean fuel with relatively endless reserves
> certainly has potential, but also faces many challenges. For example,
> the production of hydrogen requires a great deal of energy.
>
> However, some companies have made great inroads in utilising renewable
> energy sources such as wind and solar power in the hydrogen harvesting
> process. One such company is Avalence LLC; based in the USA.
>
> Avalence’s hydrogen generators are electrochemical devices that convert
> water and electricity into high purity pressurized hydrogen gas through
> the process of electrolysis. Avalence's Hydrofiller system is a
> high-pressure hydrogen gas generator that doesn't require a separate
> compressor. According to the company, this cuts capital costs by up to
> 50% and operating costs by 20%.

Quick!! Send them all your money!!