From: jotinhaPT on
Hi again

Today I read about the Vulcan .NET for the first time. My doubt now is: what
fits better my purpose of migrating Clipper apps to Windows, CAVO 2.8 or
Vulcan ?

I appreciate any opinions and advices from the grupou community.

TIA

From: Stephen Quinn on

> Today I read about the Vulcan .NET for the first time. My doubt now is: what
> fits better my purpose of migrating Clipper apps to Windows, CAVO 2.8 or Vulcan ?

If you have no VO code and you want .NET then my recommendation would be to go straight to Visual Studio (C#)
If your not wanting to go .NET right now then you'll face a learning curve with VO and then later another learning curve
with C# if you change your mind.

You'll need to convert your Clipper code to VO (mainly a total re-write of your interface) but you should be able to
adapt your business logic to VO.

--
CYA
Steve


From: Alwin Nederpelt on
I think you should use Vulcan, because this is more of the feature.

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 05:50:42 -0000, "jotinhaPT"
<carnaxide(a)tugamail.pt> wrote:

>Hi again
>
>Today I read about the Vulcan .NET for the first time. My doubt now is: what
>fits better my purpose of migrating Clipper apps to Windows, CAVO 2.8 or
>Vulcan ?
>
>I appreciate any opinions and advices from the grupou community.
>
>TIA

From: Will Chapman on
jotinhaPT wrote:
> Hi again
>
> Today I read about the Vulcan .NET for the first time. My doubt now is:
> what fits better my purpose of migrating Clipper apps to Windows, CAVO
> 2.8 or Vulcan ?
>
> I appreciate any opinions and advices from the grupou community.
>
Good question. The future is dotnet but that doesn't mean that
VO is dead. In fact, your scenario is a good corollary - most
people on this list moved from Clipper to VO several years ago
but some still have customers running Clipper apps (I do). I
have no plans to convert any of those to VO or dotnet but on
the other hand I have no plans to write anything new in Clipper.

Similarly, I expect many VO apps will remain 'current' for many
years ahead and many people on this ng will still be maintaining
them (or at least a mix of VO and dotnet (Vulcan and/or C# - it
is possible to mix in dotnet). (Note the use of the term dotnet
i.e. .NET. There are a number of ways to program in dotnet and
Vulcan is based on the VO language [which was based on Clipper]
but because Vulcan has only just been launched, many people on
this forum have already started to program in dotnet using other
languages, notably C#. Many of those people would argue that you
should skip VO/Vulcan and move directly to C#. I'm not so sure.)

So to partially summarise, you are really running a generation
behind and it could be that you could move to VO2.8 and not
need to migrate to dotnet for many years. So if your objective
is simply to create a Windows version of your Clipper app then
VO may well be the easiest route (Vulcan is not yet fully mature
and I doubt that there are any people out there who have done
a Clipper -> Vulcan conversion).

On the other hand, if you want to catch up that lost generation
I would recommend that you consider dotnet. Both VO and Vulcan
can 'read' .prg files but you are going to have to make manual
significant changes to the code before it will compile. My guess
is that Vulcan will be less forgiving in this regard.

Perhaps the best advice I can give you, is to download a free
copy of C# Express and the trial version of Vulcan (using VIDE)
and just see how easily you can convert a few of your program
modules and compare that with the ease that you are progressing
with VO.

If budget is an issue (you have bought VO2.8 and cannot easily
justify the additional investment in Vulcan) and you are already
progressing well with VO2.8, I would stay on that course. It will
serve you well for many years to come and as your VO2.8 code
would be largely compatible with Vulcan, it would be a natural
starting place to jump into dotnet in the future.

Hope this helps...

Cheers


Will
--



Will Chapman
Save Our Waterways
www.SaveOurWaterways.org.uk
From: GeorgeNT on
If I was at your position, I would download the trial version of Vulcan for
60 days (includes a copy of Visual Studio 2005) and download the VIDE as
well.
If you look at the market, the .NET is the mainstream and the Vulcan.NET is
the xBase compiler for .NET environment.

I aready started developping 2 applications using Vulcan.NET.
It is a strong and well defined compiler.
It still missing some indegration features with VS2005 but, you have the
choice to use the nice VIDE as IDE.

Regards
George


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> Hi again
>
> Today I read about the Vulcan .NET for the first time. My doubt now is:
> what fits better my purpose of migrating Clipper apps to Windows, CAVO 2.8
> or Vulcan ?
>
> I appreciate any opinions and advices from the grupou community.
>
> TIA
>

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