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From: Rod Speed on 11 May 2010 01:59
Ant wrote:
> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Franc Zabkar
> <fzabkar(a)iinternode.on.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 09 May 2010 14:34:16 -0700, Ant <ant(a)zimage.comANT> put
>> finger to keyboard and composed:
>>
>>> Read failure with status 0xc000009c at offset 0x183f600 for 0xd800
>>> bytes. Read failure with status 0xc000009c at offset 0x1847e00 for
>>> 0x800 bytes.
>>
>>> After command completion occurred, registers were:
>>> ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>> 40 51 01 7e c2 00 e0 Error: UNC 1 sectors at LBA = 0x0000c27e =
>>> 49790
>>
>>> 40 51 25 3a c2 00 e0 Error: UNC 37 sectors at LBA = 0x0000c23a =
>>> 49722
>>
>>> 40 51 01 7a c2 00 e0 Error: UNC 1 sectors at LBA = 0x0000c27a =
>>> 49786
>>
>>
>> ISTM that the CHKDSK errors on the NTFS volume are correcting
>> inconsistencies in the file system. However, the errors in the 31MB
>> FAT volume appear to be flagging bad sectors. This is confirmed by
>> the SMART error log in smartctl.
>>
>> The read failures at offsets 0x183f600 and 0x1847e00 occur at
>> 25,425,408 bytes and 25,460,224 bytes, respectively. LBAs 49722 and
>> 49790 occur at 25,457,664 and 25,492,480 bytes. These are located
>> within the FAT partition.
>
> Thanks for confirming the failing/dying HDD. :)
>
>
>> AFAIK, Dell uses a small, hidden, 32MB FAT volume for recovery
>> purposes. If you examine the boot sector, you will probably find a
>> reference to RECOVERY. The partition ID byte will probably be "DE",
>> for DELL.
>>
>> You can see this with Microsoft's Sector Inspector:
>> http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/SecInspect.zip
>>
>> Extract the above archive to the one folder and execute the SIrun.bat
>> file. The procedure will generate a report file named SIout.txt.
>
> OK, I will check this tool out next time I am that PC. I tried it on a
> new Dell PC at work with 64-bit W7, but I don't think it works since
> it
> said error denied in its text file.

> Just wondering when I make an image backup. Do I assume
> I need both of these partitions onto a HDD replacement?

Its a good idea. You wont necessarily be the only person that ever works on that system.

> Or can I just copy the W2K's C: drive?

Much better to clone the entire physical hard drive with something like
True Image or do an image of the entire physical hard drive and a restore.


From: Franc Zabkar on 12 May 2010 16:30
On Tue, 11 May 2010 21:21:17 -0700, Ant <ant(a)zimage.comANT> put finger
to keyboard and composed:

>Sector Inspector Copyright Microsoft Corporation 2003
>===========================================================================
>Target - \\.\PHYSICALDRIVE0

>===========================================================================
> Master Boot Record
>===========================================================================
>| B | FS TYPE | START | END | | |
>| F | (hex) | C H S| C H S| RELATIVE | TOTAL |
>===========================================================================
>| | de | 0 1 1| 3 254 63| 63| 64197|
>| * | 07 | 4 0 1|1023 254 63| 64260| 80212545|
>| | 00 | 0 0 0| 0 0 0| 0| 0|
>| | 00 | 0 0 0| 0 0 0| 0| 0|
>===========================================================================

Above is the partition table in LBN 0 (sector 0).

There is a small partition (File System type DE), and a larger NTFS
partition (FS Type 07).

See "List of partition identifiers for PCs":
http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/partitions/partition_types-1.html

The boot code in LBN 0 is the Master Boot Record. It appears to be a
standard Windows 2000 (NT5.0) and Windows XP (NT5.1) MBR:
http://mirror.href.com/thestarman/asm/mbr/Win2kmbr.htm

LBN 64260 is an NTFS boot sector:
http://mirror.href.com/thestarman/asm/mbr/NTFSBR.htm

LBN 63 appears to be a FAT16 boot sector. The "DellUtilityFAT16"
signature suggests that it has a diagnostic purpose.

>LBN 63 [C 0, H 1, S 1]
>
>0x0000 eb 46 90 44 65 6c 6c 20-34 2e 31 00 02 04 01 00 �F?Dell 4.1.....
>0x0010 02 00 02 00 00 f8 3f 00-3f 00 ff 00 3f 00 00 00 .....�?.?.�.?...
>0x0020 c5 fa 00 00 80 00 29 07-02 d3 07 44 65 6c 6c 55 ��..�.)..�.DellU
>0x0030 74 69 6c 69 74 79 46 41-54 31 36 20 20 20 00 00 tilityFAT16 ..

- Franc Zabkar
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From: Rod Speed on 12 May 2010 17:26
Ant wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>> Do companies still sell new IDE HDDs these days?

>> Yes. But not that size anymore.

> OK good. Will there be any BIOS limitations?

Yes, there can be.

> I remember those with old PCs in the past and had to use disk overlays or something.

Yeah. Not clear how old that particular PC is tho, you never did say.


From: Ant on 12 May 2010 20:32
>>>> Do companies still sell new IDE HDDs these days?
>
>>> Yes. But not that size anymore.
>
>> OK good. Will there be any BIOS limitations?
>
> Yes, there can be.
>
>> I remember those with old PCs in the past and had to use disk overlays or something.
>
> Yeah. Not clear how old that particular PC is tho, you never did say.

Oh. I think it is from early 2000s. It looked like Windows 2000 was
installed back in 2003. PC is using the latest BIOS as well.
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From: Ant on 12 May 2010 20:47
Thanks. :)

> Above is the partition table in LBN 0 (sector 0).
>
> There is a small partition (File System type DE), and a larger NTFS
> partition (FS Type 07).
>
> See "List of partition identifiers for PCs":
> http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/partitions/partition_types-1.html
>
> The boot code in LBN 0 is the Master Boot Record. It appears to be a
> standard Windows 2000 (NT5.0) and Windows XP (NT5.1) MBR:
> http://mirror.href.com/thestarman/asm/mbr/Win2kmbr.htm
>
> LBN 64260 is an NTFS boot sector:
> http://mirror.href.com/thestarman/asm/mbr/NTFSBR.htm
>
> LBN 63 appears to be a FAT16 boot sector. The "DellUtilityFAT16"
> signature suggests that it has a diagnostic purpose.
>
>>LBN 63 [C 0, H 1, S 1]
>>
>>0x0000 eb 46 90 44 65 6c 6c 20-34 2e 31 00 02 04 01 00 �F?Dell 4.1.....
>>0x0010 02 00 02 00 00 f8 3f 00-3f 00 ff 00 3f 00 00 00 .....�?.?.�.?...
>>0x0020 c5 fa 00 00 80 00 29 07-02 d3 07 44 65 6c 6c 55 ��..?.)..�.DellU
>>0x0030 74 69 6c 69 74 79 46 41-54 31 36 20 20 20 00 00 tilityFAT16 ..
>
> - Franc Zabkar

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