From: Doron Holan [MSFT] on
note that if your device is dedicated to a particular custom application,
winusb by itself is probably going to be just fine and you do not need to
write a UMDF driver. if the device is going to be shared across
applications, UMDF is the route to go

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> Basic C/C++ is enough. UMDF is based on COM but is limited enough that
> most people have no problem picking up the basics.
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>> Okay then,
>> I will proceed with treating WDK like DDK.
>> I have the WDF book already and will read it.
>>
>> Does writing a driver for USB need an understanding of certain
>> programming
>> language or is basic C/C++ enough?
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>> "Don Burn" wrote:
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>>> Yes you can use the same. But as I stated you should look at WDF. The
>>> book
>>> covers KMDF the kernel stuff and UMDF the user stuff.
>>>
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>>> > So WDK can be used like DDK right? I can still use those books and
>>> > develop
>>> > the driver with WDK?
>>> >
>>> > I'm very-very new to this and XP DDK books are all I have.
>>> > I'll check your WDF book. But does it also have explanations on UMDF &
>>> > other
>>> > stuff? (winUSB or something like that?)
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> >
>>> > "Don Burn" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> There are big differences, but they are things you want. First you
>>> >> can
>>> >> develop drivers the same way as was done with the XP DDK so you
>>> >> should
>>> >> not
>>> >> worry about this. What the WDK does provide you are better ways of
>>> >> doing
>>> >> drivers in particular WDF which has a lot of applicability to USB.
>>> >> Depending on your devices characteristics you can develop the driver
>>> >> as a
>>> >> UMDF driver, even if you need a kernel mode driver KMDF is a much
>>> >> better
>>> >> platform than WDM which was all that was available with the XP DDK.
>>> >>
>>> >> Get "Developing Drivers with the Windows Driver Foundation"
>>> >> http://www.amazon.com/Developing-Drivers-Windows-Foundation-Developer/dp/0735623740/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256067398&sr=1-2
>>> >> and start from there.
>>> >>
>>> >>
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>>> >> > Dear all,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I hope this is the right forum to post this question.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I'm doing a uni project to connect a device to PC through USB.
>>> >> > I understand that I need a WDK since I use WinXP (& DDK has been
>>> >> > superseded
>>> >> > by WDK)
>>> >> >
>>> >> > This is my first time doing this.
>>> >> > All the books I read still refer to DDK.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > My question is:
>>> >> > is there a big difference between WDK & DDK for WinXP?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > if YES then
>>> >> > where can I download WinXP DDK?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thank you.
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From: Maxim S. Shatskih on
> Could you suggest some books?

Penny Orwick
Guy Smith

"Developing Drivers with the Windows Driver Foundation"

ISBN-13 978-0-7356-2374-3
ISBN-10 0-7356-2374-0

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From: __ay on
The NDIS IM Driver on win2k3.
the driver complied by DDK 2k3 works well but the same code compiled by wdk
was failed. Even though the code is successfully compiled , the driver does
not works .

"Don Burn" wrote:

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> "__ay" <ay(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> > Compared to the DDK , I personally think there are some changes in WDK .
> > and the code i uesd to compile by the DDK 2k3 before was not successfully
> > compiled by the wdk. Even though the compilation is done , the driver
> > cannot
> > hardly work as I expexct
> >
>
> What type of driver and what were you doing? I have migrated over 40
> drivers to WDK as part of beta testing with no problems. Were you testing
> these on the same system as the "working version" had been tested on?
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__ay <ay(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
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>The NDIS IM Driver on win2k3.
>the driver complied by DDK 2k3 works well but the same code compiled by wdk
>was failed. Even though the code is successfully compiled , the driver does
>not works .

Are you compiling in the Windows 2003 Build Environment in the WDK?
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