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From: Jonah Thomas on 24 Oct 2009 14:23 doug <xx(a)xx.com> wrote: > Jonah Thomas wrote: > > Don't feed the trolls unless it's fun for you. > > > > Is it fun to get into a "Yes it is" "No it isn't" "Yes it is" "No it > > isn't" cycle? > > > > Is it fun to present detailed evidence and have that evidence > > ignored, receiving instead the same old assertions? > > > > You must choose for yourself the rules of the game you are playing. > > Typically trolls will try to set the rules of the game for you. "You > > have to convince me. If you try to convince me and I am not > > convinced, then that proves you're a wrong idiot. You lose and I > > win. If you give up trying to convince me, then you have lost and I > > have won, that proves you are a wrong idiot." > > Your rules seem to be that you make silly claims and then run and hide > when asked to back them. That is how you enjoy yourself but you are > afraid to support your claims. > > > > Some of the trolls come right out and admit that they think of you > > as an animal in a cage that they have fun poking sticks at. "Haha, > > let's see if we can make the animal scream again." Is it fun to play > > their game with them? But all you need to get out of the cage is > > ignore it and ignore them. The cage only exists in their frame. > > Yes, jonah, you come out and make wrong claims and then hope to ignore > it when you are shown wrong. Keep running away, the exercise is good > for you. See? Did I call it or not?
From: doug on 24 Oct 2009 16:08 Jonah Thomas wrote: > doug <xx(a)xx.com> wrote: > >>Jonah Thomas wrote: > > >>>Don't feed the trolls unless it's fun for you. >>> >>>Is it fun to get into a "Yes it is" "No it isn't" "Yes it is" "No it >>>isn't" cycle? >>> >>>Is it fun to present detailed evidence and have that evidence >>>ignored, receiving instead the same old assertions? >>> >>>You must choose for yourself the rules of the game you are playing. >>>Typically trolls will try to set the rules of the game for you. "You >>>have to convince me. If you try to convince me and I am not >>>convinced, then that proves you're a wrong idiot. You lose and I >>>win. If you give up trying to convince me, then you have lost and I >>>have won, that proves you are a wrong idiot." >> >>Your rules seem to be that you make silly claims and then run and hide >>when asked to back them. That is how you enjoy yourself but you are >>afraid to support your claims. >> >>>Some of the trolls come right out and admit that they think of you >>>as an animal in a cage that they have fun poking sticks at. "Haha, >>>let's see if we can make the animal scream again." Is it fun to play >>>their game with them? But all you need to get out of the cage is >>>ignore it and ignore them. The cage only exists in their frame. >> >>Yes, jonah, you come out and make wrong claims and then hope to ignore >>it when you are shown wrong. Keep running away, the exercise is good >>for you. > > > See? Did I call it or not? You are right. You are continuing to run from your silly statements and have no ability to back them up.
From: Jonah Thomas on 24 Oct 2009 16:08 doug <xx(a)xx.com> wrote: > Jonah Thomas wrote: > > doug <xx(a)xx.com> wrote: > >>Jonah Thomas wrote: > > > >>>Don't feed the trolls unless it's fun for you. > >>> > >>>Is it fun to get into a "Yes it is" "No it isn't" "Yes it is" "No > >it>>isn't" cycle? > >>> > >>>Is it fun to present detailed evidence and have that evidence > >>>ignored, receiving instead the same old assertions? > >>> > >>>You must choose for yourself the rules of the game you are playing. > >>>Typically trolls will try to set the rules of the game for you. > >"You>>have to convince me. If you try to convince me and I am not > >>>convinced, then that proves you're a wrong idiot. You lose and I > >>>win. If you give up trying to convince me, then you have lost and I > >>>have won, that proves you are a wrong idiot." > >> > >>Your rules seem to be that you make silly claims and then run and > >hide>when asked to back them. That is how you enjoy yourself but you > >are>afraid to support your claims. > >> > >>>Some of the trolls come right out and admit that they think of you > >>>as an animal in a cage that they have fun poking sticks at. "Haha, > >>>let's see if we can make the animal scream again." Is it fun to > >play>>their game with them? But all you need to get out of the cage > >is>>ignore it and ignore them. The cage only exists in their frame. > >> > >>Yes, jonah, you come out and make wrong claims and then hope to > >ignore>it when you are shown wrong. Keep running away, the exercise > >is good>for you. > > > > See? Did I call it or not? > > You are right. You are continuing to run from your silly statements > and have no ability to back them up. You are some random guy on the internet and I have no obligation to do what you want. Your logical arguments from known premises, intuitive leaps, opinions, and prejudices are sometimes interesting but have no particular validity. I will occasionally respond to you when I feel like it. Recently you gave me a hint from your own experience, to look at birefringence. Thank you. That looks useful.
From: doug on 24 Oct 2009 18:47 Jonah Thomas wrote: > doug <xx(a)xx.com> wrote: > >>Jonah Thomas wrote: >> >>>doug <xx(a)xx.com> wrote: >>> >>>>Jonah Thomas wrote: >>> >>>>>Don't feed the trolls unless it's fun for you. >>>>> >>>>>Is it fun to get into a "Yes it is" "No it isn't" "Yes it is" "No >>> >>>it>>isn't" cycle? >>> >>>>>Is it fun to present detailed evidence and have that evidence >>>>>ignored, receiving instead the same old assertions? >>>>> >>>>>You must choose for yourself the rules of the game you are playing. >>>>>Typically trolls will try to set the rules of the game for you. >>> >>>"You>>have to convince me. If you try to convince me and I am not >>> >>>>>convinced, then that proves you're a wrong idiot. You lose and I >>>>>win. If you give up trying to convince me, then you have lost and I >>>>>have won, that proves you are a wrong idiot." >>>> >>>>Your rules seem to be that you make silly claims and then run and >>> >>>hide>when asked to back them. That is how you enjoy yourself but you >>>are>afraid to support your claims. >>> >>>>>Some of the trolls come right out and admit that they think of you >>>>>as an animal in a cage that they have fun poking sticks at. "Haha, >>>>>let's see if we can make the animal scream again." Is it fun to >>> >>>play>>their game with them? But all you need to get out of the cage >>>is>>ignore it and ignore them. The cage only exists in their frame. >>> >>>>Yes, jonah, you come out and make wrong claims and then hope to >>> >>>ignore>it when you are shown wrong. Keep running away, the exercise >>>is good>for you. >>> >>>See? Did I call it or not? >> >>You are right. You are continuing to run from your silly statements >>and have no ability to back them up. > > > You are some random guy on the internet and I have no obligation to do > what you want. Lets see, you were the one proclaiming that there were big problems with science. When asked to show even one, you failed completely. I was only asking you to justify what you claimed. You cannot Your logical arguments from known premises, intuitive > leaps, opinions, and prejudices are sometimes interesting but have no > particular validity. I will occasionally respond to you when I feel > like it. Yes, you will ignore it when I point out your mistakes. > > Recently you gave me a hint from your own experience, to look at > birefringence. Thank you. That looks useful. I have been doing physics for a long time and have a lot of experience in these areas.
From: eric gisse on 24 Oct 2009 18:25
Jonah Thomas wrote: > doug <xx(a)xx.com> wrote: >> Jonah Thomas wrote: >> > doug <xx(a)xx.com> wrote: >> >>Jonah Thomas wrote: >> > >> >>>Don't feed the trolls unless it's fun for you. >> >>> >> >>>Is it fun to get into a "Yes it is" "No it isn't" "Yes it is" "No >> >it>>isn't" cycle? >> >>> >> >>>Is it fun to present detailed evidence and have that evidence >> >>>ignored, receiving instead the same old assertions? >> >>> >> >>>You must choose for yourself the rules of the game you are playing. >> >>>Typically trolls will try to set the rules of the game for you. >> >"You>>have to convince me. If you try to convince me and I am not >> >>>convinced, then that proves you're a wrong idiot. You lose and I >> >>>win. If you give up trying to convince me, then you have lost and I >> >>>have won, that proves you are a wrong idiot." >> >> >> >>Your rules seem to be that you make silly claims and then run and >> >hide>when asked to back them. That is how you enjoy yourself but you >> >are>afraid to support your claims. >> >> >> >>>Some of the trolls come right out and admit that they think of you >> >>>as an animal in a cage that they have fun poking sticks at. "Haha, >> >>>let's see if we can make the animal scream again." Is it fun to >> >play>>their game with them? But all you need to get out of the cage >> >is>>ignore it and ignore them. The cage only exists in their frame. >> >> >> >>Yes, jonah, you come out and make wrong claims and then hope to >> >ignore>it when you are shown wrong. Keep running away, the exercise >> >is good>for you. >> > >> > See? Did I call it or not? >> >> You are right. You are continuing to run from your silly statements >> and have no ability to back them up. > > You are some random guy on the internet and I have no obligation to do > what you want. Your logical arguments from known premises, intuitive > leaps, opinions, and prejudices are sometimes interesting but have no > particular validity. I will occasionally respond to you when I feel > like it. > > Recently you gave me a hint from your own experience, to look at > birefringence. Thank you. That looks useful. Why is it you feel your ignorance is a better guide than actual experience? |