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On Wed, 5 May 2010 14:38:15 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
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>"Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>> And Carly is now running for a US Senate seat :-)
>
>I'm thinking that largely destroying a company's culture and nearly running it
>into the ground sound like good qualifications to be a politician...

While I'm certainly not a Carly fan, HP was on that trajectory long before she
came on the scene.
From: Joel Koltner on
<krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message
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> While I'm certainly not a Carly fan, HP was on that trajectory long before
> she
> came on the scene.

Being able to largely just go with the status quo ought to help her
qualifications as a political candidate too? :-)

Point taken, though -- Tektronix largley imploded as well, without any one
particular CEO to serve as whipping boy...

Apple's a pretty amazing/rare case of a phoenix (named Steve Jobs) rising
from the ashes of near-irrelevancy.

From: Joerg on
Joel Koltner wrote:
> <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message
> news:ejr3u5h2l42rj28hkmbkkhcu5ol9s2egk4(a)4ax.com...
>> While I'm certainly not a Carly fan, HP was on that trajectory long
>> before she
>> came on the scene.
>
> Being able to largely just go with the status quo ought to help her
> qualifications as a political candidate too? :-)
>
> Point taken, though -- Tektronix largley imploded as well, without any
> one particular CEO to serve as whipping boy...
>

They should start talking to their customers more. I've filled out
numerous surveys for them. From those, they could have seen that I
haven't bought a Tek product in a long time. The smart thing would have
been to pick up the phone and have a chat, ask why. But no ... so I
don't participate in their surveys anymore, makes no sense to me.

They could have found some interesting things. For example that it
doesn't make sense to sell a DSO with a paltry 4k sample memory where
Asian mfgs are already eating their lunch by providing several times more.


> Apple's a pretty amazing/rare case of a phoenix (named Steve Jobs)
> rising from the ashes of near-irrelevancy.
>

He does have the right instincts. But IMHO it's more stuff for nerds and
consumers who like new toys all the time. And there's plenty of those :-)

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From: Joel Koltner on
"Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> He does have the right instincts. But IMHO it's more stuff for nerds and
> consumers who like new toys all the time. And there's plenty of those :-)

Oh yeah, it's what drives the economy these days...

If all your neighbors were like you -- fixing anything that had a pretty
simple fix when it broke, only buying new cars/computers/TVs/etc. when the old
one actually wore out, etc... what kind of economy would that be? :-) I mean,
I'd like to think we'd expend all our then-extra human capital on, I dunno,
finding a cure for cancer or feeding the hungry or something, but I'm kinda
dubious how likely that'd be...

From: Joerg on
Joel Koltner wrote:
> "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:84edrgF637U1(a)mid.individual.net...
>> He does have the right instincts. But IMHO it's more stuff for nerds
>> and consumers who like new toys all the time. And there's plenty of
>> those :-)
>
> Oh yeah, it's what drives the economy these days...
>
> If all your neighbors were like you -- fixing anything that had a pretty
> simple fix when it broke, only buying new cars/computers/TVs/etc. when
> the old one actually wore out, etc... what kind of economy would that
> be? :-) I mean, I'd like to think we'd expend all our then-extra human
> capital on, I dunno, finding a cure for cancer or feeding the hungry or
> something, but I'm kinda dubious how likely that'd be...
>

Detroit's nightmare: An elegant elderly lady in front of Costco, loading
upscale food items into an Austin Healey. Her first car, she bought it
used in 1961, still looked almost like new. "I guess it'll survive me
...." she said.

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