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From: Pete Dashwood on 29 May 2007 01:29

"LX-i" <lxi0007(a)netscape.net> wrote in message
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> Pete Dashwood wrote:
>> (I spent most of this morning furthering my education via a Web Cast on
>> Master Pages and Themes (all really good stuff; I am persuaded to stop
>> with CSS and go to themes instead :-)))
>
> Nah - don't dump CSS. Master pages with a good CSS file will work out
> well.

But Dan, I want to have a .skin file and name it "fore"...:-)
>
> On a completely off-topic, unrelated topic - I just made a change to a
> theme (WordPress, not dotNet) using CSS and a custom image. It's on my
> new "weekly devotions" site - anywhere there's a quote from the Bible,
> it's got a ribbon on the bottom that looks like a bookmark. It's linked
> from my personal blog's home page under "Weekly Devotions".

Well, could you do the decent thing and post a link then, please... :-)

Pete.


From: Anonymous on 29 May 2007 05:18
In article <6dL6i.16043$j63.2521(a)newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Charles Hottel <chottel(a)earthlink.net> wrote:

[snip]

>If this is the only problem and if the
>baby can develop long enough then he/she may have a chance. However 25% to
>40% of the babies with this problem have other birth defects.

Odds like this are given so that you may exult in beating them. Best
wishes, Mr Hottel, to all involved for a rapid convalesences and full
recoveries.

DD

From: Paul Raulerson on 29 May 2007 21:01
The people here have been here (a lot of us) for a decade or more. I cannot
think of a better definition of a friend than someone you you can talk with.
My daughter has a severe oxygen deprevation while she was being born, and as
a result has a moderately severe retardation. She also suffers from
epileptic seizures, which terrify all of us. She woke up the other night
afraid she was going to die.

She has slept in our bed for the past week, and I have been ejoying the
hospitality of the couch. (*sigh*) She is worth it, and even if your child
has birthh defects, it won't really matter to you. Trust me on that.

Our prayers and best wishes are with you.

-Paul & Karen

"Charles Hottel" <chottel(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Top Post not more below
>
> Hi! Pete,
>
> I downloaded Axis 1.4 and if it works as the documentation says I believe
> it would not be too difficult to do the few steps required to invoke a web
> service.
> Not sure when I might get around to it though.
>
> My wife is pregnant and we spent today in the emergency room as she was
> experiencing severe pain on her left side. They think the cause of the
> pain is not a threat to the baby, but the sonogram showed a possible birth
> defect ( a hole in the abdominal wall), something like a hernia. Tomorrow
> they will give us the name of a specialist. If this is the only problem
> and if the baby can develop long enough then he/she may have a chance.
> However 25% to 40% of the babies with this problem have other birth
> defects. I am feeling kind of low and web services will have to take a
> back seat for quite a while.
>
> Sorry to lay this on you. I do not have a lot of friends and some of the
> ones I did have disapproved of my latest marraige and abandoned our
> friendship. I tried calling my two children but they are not home. The
> people on this group are pretty much the closest thing I have to friends
> and I just had to let this out to someone.
>
> "Pete Dashwood" <dashwood(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:5bnqv4F2rp0c0U1(a)mid.individual.net...
>> Hi Charlie,
>>
>> I had a quick look at this but there are too many things wrong with it
>> for me to fix it at the moment.
>>
>> The Web Page is fine (I have one question on it but don't have time to
>> check it out) but there are problems in the Java Applet. If the SOAP
>> Class is invoked it shouldn't require a socket connection (it will make
>> its own) and it looks to me as if you are doing something that is very
>> low level (and unnecessary, if the SOAP COM server is used, as Jimmy and
>> I did.)
>>
>> I'm flat out this weekend doing a major address conversion with the AVS
>> engine, but I'll have a look at it next week if none of the Java experts
>> here have picked it up meanwhile, or if you haven't been able to do it
>> yourself...
>>
>> Thanks for having a go... I bet you learned something :-)
>>
>> Pete.
>>
>> TOP POST - nothing new below.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Charles Hottel" <chottel(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:GPp5i.13254$Ut6.2582(a)newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>
>>> "Charles Hottel" <chottel(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:%g45i.18421$3P3.8338(a)newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Pete Dashwood" <dashwood(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote in message
>>>> news:5bhj8jF2rrq02U1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Charles Hottel" <chottel(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:6iM4i.12447$Ut6.3969(a)newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have learned far more about OO from learning Java than from C++ or
>>>>>> OO COBOL books. It is no silver bullet but I can see how it improves
>>>>>> some things.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I had exactly the same experience. OO is such an innate part of
>>>>> Java that it just seems completely natural.
>>>>>
>>>>> For me, OO opens the way to component based design and programming.
>>>>> The code posted in this thread is a concrete example of what I have
>>>>> been talking about; the web service is simply a component exposed to
>>>>> the Internet. You can plug it into your applications and not need to
>>>>> maintain it or worry about it. (Conceptually it is just like an
>>>>> extension of the OS; you use it every day and expect it to work as
>>>>> specified. It does what it does.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Components may be the keys to the kingdom, unlocking Lamba functions
>>>>> and functional programming and helping to move us toward Kurzweil's
>>>>> Singularity.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have a COBOL compiler on your home system, that supports OO, I
>>>>> would urge you to try the code. (We will have a MicroFocus version any
>>>>> time now, as well as the original Fujitsu NetCOBOL version which will
>>>>> work with ANY version of Fujitsu COBOL, right back to version 3.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not attempt a Java Class to access it? (Kinda cool to have COBOL
>>>>> being invoked by Java across thousands of miles :-))
>>>>>
>>>>> Researching how to access web services from Java is probably very
>>>>> useful for both your Java and your web services learning.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you get stuck, I can help.
>>>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> Well I made an attempt at invoking your web service from Java, but I did
>>> not have much spare time so it was not completely successful.
>>>
>>> I only have one book that talk about Java and web services: Just Java 2
>>> 6th edition and it is a little dated (2004). Chapter 28, mostly talks
>>> about two beta programs through Amazon ans Google. While they looked
>>> straightforward enough I decided I did not have time for that approach.
>>>
>>> There is also the Apache Axis package. I think when I have more time I
>>> will try using it.
>>>
>>> Basically they all process the WSDL and generate Java you can use in you
>>> program to access the web servive.
>>>
>>> I googled on "java invoke web service" and got more than 54 million
>>> hits and there is lots of good stuff but most of it too long for the
>>> remaining time I had left. At
>>> http://www.codeproject.com/soap/WSfromJava.asp I found what looked like
>>> something short enough to try. It was a simple applet that invoked a web
>>> service called ConcatWithSpace. It takes two string as input and
>>> returns them concatenated with a space in the middle. One drawback is it
>>> is for JDK 1.1. The entire web article is pretty short.
>>>
>>> I downloaded the code, a Java program for the applet, which also has a
>>> SoapRequestBuilder class, and a html page that invokes the applet and
>>> passes the required parameters. I thought I could figure out the parms
>>> from your WSDL and just change the web page to invoke your web service,
>>> but I must be doing something wrong. I tried many variations but I
>>> always get: "Error: access denied (java.net.SocketPermission)". Well I
>>> realize I am not knowledgeable yet in this area of Java which is one
>>> reason for making the attempt. Anyway I am sure this approach is not the
>>> best in general and Axis is a better way to go. I see O''Reilly has a
>>> Java Web Services book. Just what I need, another book added to my
>>> already very long list.
>>>
>>> Here is the original html code for invoking the ConcatWithSpace service,
>>> which I assume worked:
>>>
>>> <HTML><HEAD>
>>> <TITLE>Applet HTML Page</TITLE>
>>> </HEAD>
>>>
>>> <BODY>
>>> <H3><HR WIDTH="100%">Applet HTML Page<HR WIDTH="100%"></H3>
>>>
>>> <applet code="SOAPexample" width=400 height=50>
>>> <param name="server" value="127.0.0.1">
>>> <param name="method" value="ConcatWithSpace">
>>> <param name="xmlnamespace" value="http://tempuri.org/">
>>> <param name="webservicepath" value="/SimpleService/Service1.asmx">
>>> <param name="string1" value="David">
>>> <param name="string2" value="Hobbs">
>>> </applet>
>>>
>>> <HR WIDTH="100%">
>>> </BODY></HTML>
>>>
>>> Here is the modified version of the html:
>>>
>>> <HTML><HEAD>
>>> <TITLE>Applet HTML Page</TITLE>
>>> </HEAD>
>>>
>>> <BODY>
>>> <H3><HR WIDTH="100%">Applet HTML Page<HR WIDTH="100%"></H3>
>>>
>>> <applet code="SOAPexample" width=400 height=50>
>>> <param name="server" value="http://primacomputing.co.nz/AVSWebService/">
>>> <param name="method" value="ValidateNZAddress">
>>> <param name="xmlnamespace"
>>> value="http://primacomputing.co.nz/AVSWebService/">
>>> <param name="webservicepath" value="/AVSWebService.asmx?WSDL">
>>> <param name="string1" value="97 21ST AVE TAURANGA">
>>> </applet>
>>>
>>> <HR WIDTH="100%">
>>> </BODY></HTML>
>>>
>>> Here is the original Java code for the applet. I ran out of time ( I got
>>> interrupted) before I could try to modify it. One change it needs for
>>> certain is to comment out the logic for the second parameter being
>>> passed as your web service only expects one input paramter. I did try
>>> running it anyway in the hope that it would just ignore the second
>>> parameter. Perhaps you or someone here can get it running. I am so sure
>>> that it is not the best approach in general that I will wait until I can
>>> devote proper time to the Axis approach. Well there might be even better
>>> ways, after all I am just a couple hours into my investigations.
>>>
>>> import java.applet.Applet;
>>> import java.awt.*;
>>> import java.net.*;
>>> import java.util.*;
>>> import java.io.*;
>>>
>>> public class SOAPexample extends Applet {
>>>
>>> private String response = "Nothing";
>>>
>>> public void init() {
>>> SoapRequestBuilder s = new SoapRequestBuilder();
>>> s.Server = getParameter("server");
>>> s.MethodName = getParameter("method");
>>> s.XmlNamespace = getParameter("xmlnamespace");
>>> s.WebServicePath = getParameter("webservicepath");
>>> s.SoapAction = s.XmlNamespace+s.MethodName;
>>> s.AddParameter("one", getParameter("string1"));
>>> //s.AddParameter("two", getParameter("string2"));
>>> response = s.sendRequest();
>>> repaint();
>>> }
>>>
>>> public void paint(Graphics g) {
>>> g.setColor(Color.black);
>>> Font f = new Font("TimesRoman", 0, 20);
>>> g.setFont(f);
>>> g.drawString(response, 10, 20);
>>> }
>>>
>>> public void start() {
>>> repaint();
>>> }
>>> }
>>>
>>> class SoapRequestBuilder {
>>> String Server = "";
>>> String WebServicePath = "";
>>> String SoapAction = "";
>>> String MethodName = "";
>>> String XmlNamespace = "";
>>> private Vector ParamNames = new Vector();
>>> private Vector ParamData = new Vector();
>>>
>>> public void AddParameter(String Name, String Data) {
>>> ParamNames.addElement( (Object) Name);
>>> ParamData.addElement( (Object) Data);
>>> }
>>>
>>> public String sendRequest() {
>>> String retval = "";
>>> Socket socket = null;
>>> try {
>>> socket = new Socket(Server, 80);
>>> }
>>> catch (Exception ex1) {
>>> return ("Error: "+ex1.getMessage());
>>> }
>>>
>>> try {
>>> OutputStream os = socket.getOutputStream();
>>> boolean autoflush = true;
>>> PrintWriter out = new PrintWriter(socket.getOutputStream(),
>>> autoflush);
>>> BufferedReader in = new BufferedReader(new
>>> InputStreamReader(socket.
>>> getInputStream()));
>>>
>>> int length = 295 + (MethodName.length() * 2) +
>>> XmlNamespace.length();
>>> for (int t = 0; t < ParamNames.size(); t++) {
>>> String name = (String) ParamNames.elementAt(t);
>>> String data = (String) ParamData.elementAt(t);
>>> length += name.length();
>>> length += data.length();
>>> }
>>>
>>> // send an HTTP request to the web service
>>> out.println("POST " + WebServicePath + " HTTP/1.1");
>>> out.println("Host: localhost:80");
>>> out.println("Content-Type: text/xml; charset=utf-8");
>>> out.println("Content-Length: " + String.valueOf(length));
>>> out.println("SOAPAction: \"" + SoapAction + "\"");
>>> out.println("Connection: Close");
>>> out.println();
>>>
>>> out.println("<?xml version=\"1.0\" encoding=\"utf-8\"?>");
>>> out.println("<soap:Envelope
>>> xmlns:xsi=\"http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance\"
>>> xmlns:xsd=\"http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema\"
>>> xmlns:soap=\"http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/\">");
>>> out.println("<soap:Body>");
>>> out.println("<" + MethodName + " xmlns=\"" + XmlNamespace + "\">");
>>> //Parameters passed to the method are added here
>>> for (int t = 0; t < ParamNames.size(); t++) {
>>> String name = (String) ParamNames.elementAt(t);
>>> String data = (String) ParamData.elementAt(t);
>>> out.println("<" + name + ">" + data + "</" + name + ">");
>>> }
>>> out.println("</" + MethodName + ">");
>>> out.println("</soap:Body>");
>>> out.println("</soap:Envelope>");
>>> out.println();
>>>
>>> // Read the response from the server ... times out if the response
>>> takes
>>> // more than 3 seconds
>>> String inputLine;
>>> StringBuffer sb = new StringBuffer(1000);
>>>
>>> int wait_seconds = 3;
>>> boolean timeout = false;
>>> long m = System.currentTimeMillis();
>>> while ( (inputLine = in.readLine()) != null && !timeout) {
>>> sb.append(inputLine + "\n");
>>> if ( (System.currentTimeMillis() - m) > (1000 * wait_seconds))
>>> timeout = true;
>>> }
>>> in.close();
>>>
>>> // The StringBuffer sb now contains the complete result from the
>>> // webservice in XML format. You can parse this XML if you want to
>>> // get more complicated results than a single value.
>>>
>>> if (!timeout) {
>>> String returnparam = MethodName + "Result";
>>> int start = sb.toString().indexOf("<" + returnparam + ">") +
>>> returnparam.length() + 2;
>>> int end = sb.toString().indexOf("</" + returnparam + ">");
>>>
>>> //Extract a singe return parameter
>>> retval = sb.toString().substring(start, end);
>>> }
>>> else {
>>> retval="Error: response timed out.";
>>> }
>>>
>>> socket.close();
>>> }
>>> catch (Exception ex) {
>>> return ("Error: cannot communicate.");
>>> }
>>>
>>> return retval;
>>> }
>>> }
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


From: Charles Hottel on 31 May 2007 13:37

"Pete Dashwood" <dashwood(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote in message
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>
> "Charles Hottel" <chottel(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:6dL6i.16043$j63.2521(a)newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> Top Post not more below
>>
>> Hi! Pete,
>>
>> I downloaded Axis 1.4 and if it works as the documentation says I believe
>> it would not be too difficult to do the few steps required to invoke a
>> web service.
>> Not sure when I might get around to it though.
>>
>> My wife is pregnant and we spent today in the emergency room as she was
>> experiencing severe pain on her left side. They think the cause of the
>> pain is not a threat to the baby, but the sonogram showed a possible
>> birth defect ( a hole in the abdominal wall), something like a hernia.
>> Tomorrow they will give us the name of a specialist. If this is the
>> only problem and if the baby can develop long enough then he/she may have
>> a chance. However 25% to 40% of the babies with this problem have other
>> birth defects. I am feeling kind of low and web services will have to
>> take a back seat for quite a while.
>>
>> Sorry to lay this on you.
>
> Absolutely do NOT apologise... :-) There isn't much any of us here can
> do, apart from give you moral support. Speaking only for myself, you have
> it.
>
>
>> I do not have a lot of friends and some of the ones I did have
>> disapproved of my latest marraige and abandoned our friendship.
>
> With "friends" like that, you don't need enemies. People who would judge
> you for your personal actions, which have nothing to do with anyone else,
> are people who you are probably better off without.
>
>> I tried calling my two children but they are not home. The people on
>> this group are pretty much the closest thing I have to friends and I just
>> had to let this out to someone.
>
> I understand. Glad you did. I'm sure some here will know what you are
> going through, and most can empathise with the stress you are under.
>
> Don't worry at all about the web services :-)
>
> My exercise over the weekend went very successfully and I am under less
> pressure now than I was, although I still have a huge amount of work to do
> on the AVS web site. (I spent most of this morning furthering my education
> via a Web Cast on Master Pages and Themes (all really good stuff; I am
> persuaded to stop with CSS and go to themes instead :-)))
>
> On the web service from Java...
> I see the real problem as being able to access COM from Java (Once you
> establish connection to the SOAP COM proxy, the rest is just stamp
> collecting :-)). Bearing this in mind, I found that IBM are offering an
> approach that is free and looks very useful. I have downloaded their
> Bridge2Java software from the article "Bridging the gap to COM"
>
> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-bridge/
>
> From my web searches I found a number of offerings that did the same; some
> of them were really excellent, but expensive...
>
> If I can find some time and need a break from C# and Web stuff, I'll
> attempt to implement the Java link to the web service.
>
> However, it might be interesting to compare the IBM approach with the Axis
> one, so please do it if you have time or need to bury yourself in
> something that may help to take your mind off your immmediate problems.
> (In the course of my life I have found working to be a very useful therapy
> when trauma strikes...but that might just be me.)
>
> Meantime, very best wishes for a safe delivery with mother and child both
> fine. Try not to let it get you down.
>
> Pete.
>
>
>
> <previous unreferenced snipped>
>

I have not spent a lot of time searching but I saw JACOB: JAva COm Bridge
and something from IBM at www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/dtjcb

IIRC with Axis I just need to:

1. add a path to the .jar files to my CLASSPATH
2. run wsdl2java program against the wsdl
3. write short java program to invoke the web services using the java
generated in step 2

Well that is just from a quick glance at the documantation several days ago.


From: Alistair on 31 May 2007 14:37
On 24 May, 04:24, Richard <rip...(a)Azonic.co.nz> wrote:
> On May 23, 10:02 pm, "Pete Dashwood"
>
> <dashw...(a)removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote:
> > It was Online Linking and Embedding (OLE). This then evolved into the Common
> > Object Model.
>
> > Fujitsu has supported it since version 3 which I acquired in 1997. It was
> > one of the first OO COBOL compilers. Fujitsu offered it free to people who
> > were using MicroFocus COBOL.
>
> Version 3 did not have OO or OLE. As this version is still (? adtools
> has gone) available it may mislead students into think that it does.
>
> Version 4 introduced OO and OLE in 1998. I have both sets of paper
> manuals.

v3 was Event driven, as per VB.

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