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From: John McWilliams on 8 Jul 2010 12:02
Wes Groleau wrote:
> On 07-08-2010 01:46, BreadWithSpam(a)fractious.net wrote:
>> Adobe Reader was even worse than Preview.
>
> The behavior I posted is the only difficulty I ever had
> with either app and IRS forms.

Yes, for whatever reason they don't allow you to Save, the point
being...... I have no bloody idea.
You found one good workaround, printing to PDF.

--
john mcwilliams
From: Wes Groleau on 8 Jul 2010 14:45
On 07-08-2010 12:02, John McWilliams wrote:
> Wes Groleau wrote:
>> On 07-08-2010 01:46, BreadWithSpam(a)fractious.net wrote:
>>> Adobe Reader was even worse than Preview.
>>
>> The behavior I posted is the only difficulty I ever had
>> with either app and IRS forms.
>
> Yes, for whatever reason they don't allow you to Save, the point
> being...... I have no bloody idea.
> You found one good workaround, printing to PDF.

Actually, if you read my problem description, it did save some changes,
then would not let other changes be made at all.

Re-downloading the form let me re-do the first set, finish the job, then
save it.

Then Adobe Reader on Windows would display the inputs if you asked it
nicely enough, but would not print them.

Back to Preview, print to PDF and take the results back to Adobe/Win and
can finally print.


--
Wes Groleau

New numbers for next year
http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/barrett?itemid=1495
From: John McWilliams on 8 Jul 2010 19:07
Wes Groleau wrote:
> On 07-08-2010 12:02, John McWilliams wrote:
>> Wes Groleau wrote:
>>> On 07-08-2010 01:46, BreadWithSpam(a)fractious.net wrote:
>>>> Adobe Reader was even worse than Preview.
>>>
>>> The behavior I posted is the only difficulty I ever had
>>> with either app and IRS forms.
>>
>> Yes, for whatever reason they don't allow you to Save, the point
>> being...... I have no bloody idea.
>> You found one good workaround, printing to PDF.
>
> Actually, if you read my problem description, it did save some changes,
> then would not let other changes be made at all.

O.K., so I shoulda said "not properly".
>
> Re-downloading the form let me re-do the first set, finish the job, then
> save it.

Can you reopen and make changes to this 'saved' document from the gov.??
>
> Then Adobe Reader on Windows would display the inputs if you asked it
> nicely enough, but would not print them.
>
> Back to Preview, print to PDF and take the results back to Adobe/Win and
> can finally print.

Yes, I got that, and congratulated you for stating the workaround.

--
lsmft
>
>
From: Wes Groleau on 8 Jul 2010 21:07
On 07-08-2010 19:07, John McWilliams wrote:
>> Re-downloading the form let me re-do the first set, finish the job,
>> then save it.
> Can you reopen and make changes to this 'saved' document from the gov.??

I didn't try, but unless the first ones—more than one form—were
corrupted, Preview probably treats them all the same.

--
Wes Groleau

Answer not a fool according to his folly,
lest thou also be like unto him.
Answer a fool according to his folly,
lest he be wise according to his own conceit.
-- Solomon
Are you saying there's no good way to answer a fool?
-- Groleau
From: isw on 9 Jul 2010 03:06
In article <i13j0c$hol$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Phillip Jones <pjones1(a)kimbanet.com> wrote:

> isw wrote:
> > In article<i13ffb$vsd$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> > Wes Groleau<Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I pulled PDF forms from the US IRS website and started doing my taxes on
> >> my Macbook.
> >
> > Two observations on PDF forms from the IRS (from a couple of years ago):
> >
> > 1) Preview couldn't render them properly; I had to use the Adobe viewer
> > app. Preview gave all sorts of garbage characters.
> >
> > 2) Non-Postscript (level II) printers could not properly print the forms
> > (garbage characters again). The only way I could get it to work was with
> > my LaserJet 2100 M that has a Postscript card installed.
> >
> > Isaac
> Most IRS forms are created in the PC version of Acrobat the most
> expensive version. They create XML based PDF forms. first to make them
> so you can use them. You need Acrobat (or perhaps PDFPen.

It should not be allowed for any government agency to create forms for
which you need to purchase any commercial software at all.

Isaac
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