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From: Bob Melson on 28 Mar 2010 13:08 Ports freeze is over and the overnight update of the ports tree results in literally 100s of ports to be updated in order to stay current. Problem is, as it has been the last several cycles, that several of the ports which are dependencies for many others - cairo, for example - are broken or are themselves dependent on broken, vulnerable or deprecated ports. Now I KNOW these problems will be resolved, the sun will continue to shine, the birds will sing and all will be right with the world. But what I find disturbing is that this has become a regular thing, part of the rush to get things out the door to meet some sort of self-imposed deadline. (And, before anybody says it, no, I don't have a better idea or way of doing things and my programming skills have atrophied in the several years since retirement, so building that better mousetrap isn't an option). C'mon, guys. I realize you're volunteers and your time working on ports comes at the expense of family, friends and leisure, but this has become ridiculous. Bob Melson -- Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas ----- Nothing astonishes men so much as common sense and plain dealing. Ralph Waldo Emerson
From: Giorgos Keramidas on 28 Mar 2010 17:17 On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 11:08:43 -0600, Bob Melson <amia9018(a)mypacks.net> wrote: > Ports freeze is over and the overnight update of the ports tree > results in literally 100s of ports to be updated in order to stay > current. Problem is, as it has been the last several cycles, that > several of the ports which are dependencies for many others - cairo, > for example - are broken or are themselves dependent on broken, > vulnerable or deprecated ports. > > Now I KNOW these problems will be resolved, the sun will continue to > shine, the birds will sing and all will be right with the world. But > what I find disturbing is that this has become a regular thing, part > of the rush to get things out the door to meet some sort of > self-imposed deadline. (And, before anybody says it, no, I don't have > a better idea or way of doing things and my programming skills have > atrophied in the several years since retirement, so building that > better mousetrap isn't an option). > > C'mon, guys. I realize you're volunteers and your time working on > ports comes at the expense of family, friends and leisure, but this > has become ridiculous. I just started a portmaster run a few minutes ago. No broken ports so far, but it will hell a bit more if you report the broken ones...
From: Torfinn Ingolfsen on 28 Mar 2010 17:23 Bob Melson wrote: > Ports freeze is over and the overnight update of the ports tree results in > literally 100s of ports to be updated in order to stay current. Problem Well, they told you to keep your hands off ports for at least ten days: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2010-March/060246.html So, why didn't you listen? -- Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway
From: mechanic on 28 Mar 2010 17:45 On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 23:23:04 +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > Bob Melson wrote: >> Ports freeze is over and the overnight update of the ports tree results in >> literally 100s of ports to be updated in order to stay current. Problem > > Well, they told you to keep your hands off ports for at least ten days: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2010-March/060246.html > > So, why didn't you listen? But who reads that stuff? -- mechanic
From: Bob Melson on 28 Mar 2010 23:36 On Sunday 28 March 2010 15:23, Torfinn Ingolfsen (tingo(a)start.no) opined: > Bob Melson wrote: >> Ports freeze is over and the overnight update of the ports tree results >> in >> literally 100s of ports to be updated in order to stay current. Problem > > Well, they told you to keep your hands off ports for at least ten days: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2010-March/060246.html > > So, why didn't you listen? > -- > Torfinn Ingolfsen, > Norway Well, Torfinn, it's like this, y'see: I read /usr/ports/UPDATING, which, at the time, had no mention of the current mess and how I had to hold my mouth or how many times I might have to turn widdershins while encanting the FreeBSD spell. Secondly, not everybody subscribes to the mailing lists, particularly when they're not active porters, maintainers, commiters or otherwise actively involved with development. -- Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas ----- Nothing astonishes men so much as common sense and plain dealing. Ralph Waldo Emerson
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