From: rich burge on
On Apr 25, 7:14 am, Dom <DR...(a)teikyopost.edu> wrote:
> The truly superb article, "What Is Mathematics For?," byUnderwood
> Dudley has been published in the May 2010 issue of the AMS Notices.
>
> http://www.ams.org/notices/201005/rtx100500608p.pdf

Yes, it is a truly suberb article. My first disagreement with the
author would be in not including Geometry explicitly as part of
mathematics: "So that there is no confusion, let me say that by
'mathematics' I mean algebra, trigonometry, calculus, linear algebra,
and so on: all those subjects beyond arithmetic."

Second, the quoted problem from Chrystal's Algebra in many ways
defines what algebra is and imho ought to be. So I am confused when
he states: "We cannot go back to texts like Chrystal's." Why not?
Seems to me a "modern translation" of Chrystal with a superset of the
problems contained therein is just what is needed.

Rich
From: spudnik on
you don't read Shakespeare til the eleventh grading, or
it could seriously mess you "up." til then,
one can readily study *mathematica*, which is four subjects,
in a "hands-on" manner that does not really require
the full-throated use of language -- that one is learning,
by doing stuff.

I like UD's _Math.Cranks_, because, in his chapter
on fermatistes, he only made one mistake,
that I can find, now, and he had acknowledged it, when I told him.

also, he seems to have left numbertheory, out, and that's one
of the four, the true meaning of "higher arithmetic."

> http://www.ams.org/notices/201005/rtx100500608p.pdf
> author would be in not including Geometry explicitly as part of
> mathematics: "So that there is no confusion, let me say that by
> 'mathematics' I mean algebra, trigonometry, calculus, linear algebra,
> and so on: all those subjects beyond arithmetic."

thusNso:
textbooks are often *generically* bad glosses on the discoveries
in the original monographs, or simply pedantic workbooks.

the real empty set, to me, is those who attempt proofs,
without any grounding in elementary geometrical & numbertheory proofs
-- see wlym.com. and, recall,
it was Liebniz who gave the generic format of "iff,"
which is necessity & sufficiency, used meaningfully
in various ways in natural language.

the New Math following upon General Bourbaki was a silly thing,
since you *need* natural language (and diagrams etc.)
to make ready analogies & metaphors for your work. such that,
the glaring example of Bourbakism was perhaps Russell's illinguistic
"paradoxes"
-- whence "silly" deploys from over-reliance on Aristotle's
syllogisms!

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