What about electromagnetic time dilation?
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From: Jarek Duda on 8 Jan 2010 03:34 I've recently found 30 old years David Apsel's article showing clear experimental argument that electromagnetic field also causes time dilation - such dilation is required to explain muon lifetimes in muonic atoms: http://www.springerlink.com/content/wtr11w113r22g346/ It's strong argument for unification theories - that electromagnetic and gravitation interactions are not so qualitatively different as general relativity says - that gravity doesn't have monopole for time dilation and so probably also for other effects like redshift or gravitational lensing ... In another papers the author suggest this effect is the reason of practically infinite neutron lifetime in deuteron http://www.springerlink.com/content/p32t67t121351422/ or use it to explain observed pulsar behavior http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0104025 What do you think about these arguments (especially muon decay) ? Why these inconvenient for Einstein's picture arguments are just ignored for 30 years??
From: Androcles on 8 Jan 2010 03:47 "Jarek Duda" <dudajar(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:0142574c-22cd-4ef1-a17a-2c8408263df1(a)s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com... > I've recently found 30 old years David Apsel's article showing clear > experimental argument that electromagnetic field also causes time > dilation Bwhahahahahahahahaha! De Camptown ladies sing dis song, Duda! Duda! De Camptown race-track five miles long, Oh, Duda day! I come down dah wid my hat caved in, Duda! Duda! I go back home wid a pocket full of tin, Oh, Duda day! Gwine to run all night! Gwine to run all day! I'll bet my money on de bob-tail nag, Somebody bet on de time dilation. What we need is a clear experimental argument!
From: Jarek Duda on 8 Jan 2010 03:59 So please say what's wrong with these proposed&checked and suggest a clearer experiment?
From: Androcles on 8 Jan 2010 04:10 "Jarek Duda" <dudajar(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:381b57b5-b543-4c93-82a8-0e889657d580(a)r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... Nothing at all. Let me try again. "Jarek Duda" <dudajar(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:0142574c-22cd-4ef1-a17a-2c8408263df1(a)s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com... > I've recently found 30 old years David Apsel's article showing clear > experimental argument that electromagnetic field also causes time > dilation Bwhahahahahahahahaha! De Camptown ladies sing dis song, Duda! Duda! De Camptown race-track five miles long, Oh, Duda day! I come down dah wid my hat caved in, Duda! Duda! I go back home wid a pocket full of tin, Oh, Duda day! Gwine to run all night! Gwine to run all day! I'll bet my money on de bob-tail nag, Somebody bet on de time dilation. What we need is a clear experimental argument! Yes, I did manage to include his original statement...
From: Sue... on 8 Jan 2010 04:22
On Jan 8, 3:34 am, Jarek Duda <duda...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I've recently found 30 old years David Apsel's article showing clear > experimental argument that electromagnetic field also causes time > dilation - such dilation is required to explain muon lifetimes in > muonic atoms: http://www.springerlink.com/content/wtr11w113r22g346/ > > It's strong argument for unification theories - that electromagnetic > and gravitation interactions are not so qualitatively different as > general relativity says - that gravity doesn't have monopole for time > dilation and so probably also for other effects like redshift or > gravitational lensing ... > In another papers the author suggest this effect is the reason of > practically infinite neutron lifetime in deuteron http://www.springerlink.com/content/p32t67t121351422/ > or use it to explain observed pulsar behavior http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0104025 > > What do you think about these arguments (especially muon decay) ? > Why these inconvenient for Einstein's picture arguments are just > ignored for 30 years?? Until violations of certain fundamental symmetries are acceptable in physical theory anything promising "free time" has to find some matching "free energy" to have any credibility. << Application of Noether's theorem allows physicists to gain powerful insights into any general theory in physics, by just analyzing the various transformations that would make the form of the laws involved invariant. For example: * the invariance of physical systems with respect to spatial translation (in other words, that the laws of physics do not vary with locations in space) gives the law of conservation of linear momentum; * invariance with respect to rotation gives the law of conservation of angular momentum; * invariance with respect to time translation gives the well-known law of conservation of energy >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noether%27s_theorem#Applications Correcting known defects is usually more fruitful that extrapolating from the defects. ;-) E. Noether's Discovery of the Deep Connection Between Symmetries and Conservation Laws Authors: Nina Byers http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/9807044 Before accepting the muon's sensitivity to the speed of light a something anomalous, you might want to gain some familiarity with the role played by the muon's better known cousin in establishing the speed of light. http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Constants/alpha.html Sue... |