What antivirus to use SBS 2008ST R2
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From: Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] on 1 Feb 2010 16:07 uh? you disable the SBS2008 firewall? Why? if I may ask? Is it causing you problems? Russ -- Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] Microsoft Gold Certified Partner Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist 24hr SBS Remote Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz Microsoft Online Services - http://www.microsoft-online-services.com "Leythos" <spam999free(a)rrohio.com> wrote in message news:MPG.25d0acf777e43fbc98a0ee(a)us.news.astraweb.com... > In article <OehdhttoKHA.1556(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, sbradcpa(a)pacbell.net > says... >> >> Leythos wrote: >> > In article <#vh0G1qoKHA.4044(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, >> > sbradcpa(a)pacbell.net >> > says... >> > >> >> Leythos wrote: >> >> >> >>> In article <u39aMZSoKHA.1548(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, >> >>> sbradcpa(a)pacbell.net >> >>> says... >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> Ronald wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> Hello >> >>>>> >> >>>>> What antivirus application do you suggest for SBS 2008 R2 - a >> >>>>> single server >> >>>>> licsence is needed. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Thanks! >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> None. >> >>>> >> >>>> Seriously. >> >>>> >> >>>> Protect the workstations, but I'm seriously questioning the value of >> >>>> antivirus on a server due to the risk of false positives and how >> >>>> heavy >> >>>> handed all of them are these days. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> I would rather rely on backups and AV than to have no AV protection >> >>> at >> >>> the server memory and file level. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> A backup does not fix the issue where antivirus vendors are installing >> >> firewalls and causing network traffic to come to a halt, or the issue >> >> where the Exchange aware a/v is shutting down email after a week and >> >> causing issues. >> >> >> >> Symantec is not without it's past issues as well. >> >> >> > >> > You seem to be talking about different things - I never install any >> > firewall on the server, not even the Windows firewall, certainly not >> > the >> > AV vendors firewall. >> > >> > I've not had a properly configured corporate AV solution corrupt, cause >> > problems, delete, break, exchange in all the years I've been doing >> > this, >> > but you could complain about SQL and other products if you didn't know >> > how to configure them too. >> > >> > I don't suggest Symantec Corp edition software any more, not after >> > having one of my own sacrificial workstations compromised why fully >> > protected by SEPP 11.0.5 - I'm into Avira for non-DOD/HS solutions. >> > >> > >> Some of the antivirus vendors you can't "not" install it. Their code >> goes on the box whether you like it or not. >> >> SBS 2008 the windows firewall stays on the server and I don't turn it >> off. > > With Symantec SEPP you can choose to not use it and the PUSH to > workstations is completely controlled, so you don't have to install the > workstation part either - very simple to use. > > I don't use the windows firewall on my SBS 2003/2008 boxes, never had a > problem in all these many years. > > -- > You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little > voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. > Trust yourself. > spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
From: Leythos on 1 Feb 2010 16:32 In article <DB451AB1-A8B4-484C-B383-BB0AD5538205(a)microsoft.com>, russ(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz says... > > uh? you disable the SBS2008 firewall? > Why? if I may ask? > Is it causing you problems? > Russ Because I've always disabled it, because it's never prevented anything, because it's caused problems once in a while, because if it's going to get through on the network the win firewall isn't going to save the server. -- You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. Trust yourself. spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
From: Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] on 1 Feb 2010 20:34 hmmm.. Ok, I leave it on, I'd rather than disable security. Some "visitor" Plugs in a Laptop on the LAN and starts port sniffing, it's all over. (or has a worm that does it.) One less thing to worry about IMO. I just thought it was causing a problem Russ -- Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] Microsoft Gold Certified Partner Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist 24hr SBS Remote Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz Microsoft Online Services - http://www.microsoft-online-services.com "Leythos" <spam999free(a)rrohio.com> wrote in message news:MPG.25d11267e49b578598a0f1(a)us.news.astraweb.com... > In article <DB451AB1-A8B4-484C-B383-BB0AD5538205(a)microsoft.com>, > russ(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz says... >> >> uh? you disable the SBS2008 firewall? >> Why? if I may ask? >> Is it causing you problems? >> Russ > > Because I've always disabled it, because it's never prevented anything, > because it's caused problems once in a while, because if it's going to > get through on the network the win firewall isn't going to save the > server. > > -- > You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little > voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. > Trust yourself. > spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
From: Leythos on 2 Feb 2010 07:02 In article <9634EE67-6E05-4A12-B6B7-6303366C4271(a)microsoft.com>, russ(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz says... > > hmmm.. > Ok, I leave it on, I'd rather than disable security. > Some "visitor" Plugs in a Laptop on the LAN > and starts port sniffing, it's all over. (or has a worm that does it.) > One less thing to worry about IMO. > I just thought it was causing a problem > Russ In the past, and with 2008, I've had issues with applications as well as workstations, having problems with the win firewall on the server. Mostly with third party apps that don't auto-configure the firewall as needed. During all the years, since well before NT4, I've not seen any firewall installed on a server that actually protected it from something malicious on the LAN, have you specifically, yourself, seen the Win firewall protect the SBS server 2003/2008, on a LAN? -- You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. Trust yourself. spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
From: Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] on 2 Feb 2010 13:49
You don't remember the SQL Worm Do you? or Melissa? (I think it was called) That a basic Firewall Protected And No I don't see any issue because I always had one Which is maybe why I don't see any issues on my servers? Oh well Your Mileage may differ :) That's why we are consultants, we have a difference of opinions Later :) Russ -- Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] Microsoft Gold Certified Partner Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist 24hr SBS Remote Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz Second IT Opinion http://www.personalitconsultant.com Microsoft Online Services - http://www.microsoft-online-services.com "Leythos" <spam999free(a)rrohio.com> wrote in message news:MPG.25d1de53a58f3bd098a0f3(a)us.news.astraweb.com... > In article <9634EE67-6E05-4A12-B6B7-6303366C4271(a)microsoft.com>, > russ(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz says... >> >> hmmm.. >> Ok, I leave it on, I'd rather than disable security. >> Some "visitor" Plugs in a Laptop on the LAN >> and starts port sniffing, it's all over. (or has a worm that does it.) >> One less thing to worry about IMO. >> I just thought it was causing a problem >> Russ > > In the past, and with 2008, I've had issues with applications as well as > workstations, having problems with the win firewall on the server. > Mostly with third party apps that don't auto-configure the firewall as > needed. > > During all the years, since well before NT4, I've not seen any firewall > installed on a server that actually protected it from something > malicious on the LAN, have you specifically, yourself, seen the Win > firewall protect the SBS server 2003/2008, on a LAN? > > -- > You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little > voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. > Trust yourself. > spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) |