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From: Gordon Henderson on 29 Nov 2008 05:11 I recently decided to upgrade my desktop PC from Etch to Lenny and seem to have lost Xmms... There is now an Xmms2 but it seems to be 100's of plugins and is very confusing and xmms2 itself seems to be command-line - Now, I've no issues with that, but I have a GB of my own CDs ripped into ogg format and xmms used to "just work" and load in the .m3u files and do what it did... So not having looked at any other music players for a long time (years), I'm a bit stuck. I'm also hopping mad that Debian have complely changed something that used to "just work". Any clues on what to use now? (Oh, I use fvwm, so I don't really want anything bound to a particular window manger if possible) Gordon
From: Sheridan Hutchinson on 29 Nov 2008 05:23 Gordon Henderson wrote: > I recently decided to upgrade my desktop PC from Etch to Lenny and > seem to have lost Xmms... <snip> XMMS was receiving no further development, so much so that the Debian package maintainers for XMMS recommended that it be removed and that existing users switch to the 'Audacious' player. I would hazard to bet that 97% of existing XMMS users would be as satisfied, or happier, with a switch to Audacious. It's in the repository, check it out, and please do let us know what you think of it. It's nice to get feedback that we're suggesting the right thing. -- Regards, Sheridan Hutchinson sheridan(a)shezza.org
From: Gordon Henderson on 29 Nov 2008 06:07 In article <P92dnZKR-Ia1hazUnZ2dnUVZ8tDinZ2d(a)pipex.net>, Sheridan Hutchinson <Sheridan(a)Shezza.org> wrote: >-=-=-=-=-=- > >Gordon Henderson wrote: >> I recently decided to upgrade my desktop PC from Etch to Lenny and >> seem to have lost Xmms... > ><snip> > >XMMS was receiving no further development, so much so that the Debian >package maintainers for XMMS recommended that it be removed and that >existing users switch to the 'Audacious' player. So a bit of software basically "works" and therefore doesn't need devleopment, so because it's not under development anymore, it's dropped. Personally I think that's bonkers, but there you go, what do I know. I'm just a user... >I would hazard to bet that 97% of existing XMMS users would be as >satisfied, or happier, with a switch to Audacious. OK. I got it, installed it, and yes, it's a xmms (wimanp) look-a-like. Decided I don't like it though. It also spews forth errors on the console like: ** (audacious:26642): WARNING **: Unable to connect to dbus: Failed to execute dbus-launch to autolaunch D-Bus session (audacious:26642): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_signal_emit_valist: assertion `G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed (audacious:26642): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid (NULL) pointer instance (audacious:26642): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_signal_emit_valist: assertion `G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed amidi-plug(i_backend.c:i_backend_unload:164): unloading backend 'alsa' amidi-plug(i_backend.c:i_backend_unload:167): backend 'alsa' unloaded LASTFM: (cleanup) Cleanup finished >It's in the repository, check it out, and please do let us know what you >think of it. It's nice to get feedback that we're suggesting the right >thing. I think it would be better if it were "cleaner" in both appearance and error messag output. Maybe I'm just too old to like the "cool black and white tiny text look" though! So I think I don't like it, and since I'm now forced to make a choice, I'll look for alternatives.. Meanwhile I have now discovered "alsaplayer". It works too and after a quick cleanup on my m3u files (dos2unix) I'm very happy with it. It has nice big controls, appeals to me with a web2.0 pastel colour sceme and that's good enough for me! Thanks, Gordon
From: Justin C on 29 Nov 2008 06:44 In article <ggr7p9$2usb$1(a)energise.enta.net>, Gordon Henderson wrote: [snip] > So a bit of software basically "works" and therefore doesn't need > devleopment, so because it's not under development anymore, it's dropped. > > Personally I think that's bonkers, but there you go, what do I know. > I'm just a user... [snip] I agree, I *like* xmms, and I've never had any problem with it. There's no reason you couldn't get the version from a previous Debian release and install it - it shouldn't have any dependency issues because all of your version numbers will (likely) be higher than it requires. It does mean, however, that you keep a copy of the .deb lying around for future re-installs. I have, however, switched to using mpd - not sure if xmms can control mpd, never investigated, it does what I want through a web-browser. Justin. -- Justin C, by the sea.
From: Folderol on 29 Nov 2008 07:31
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 11:44:44 -0000 Justin C <justin.0811(a)purestblue.com> wrote: > In article <ggr7p9$2usb$1(a)energise.enta.net>, Gordon Henderson wrote: > > [snip] > > > So a bit of software basically "works" and therefore doesn't need > > devleopment, so because it's not under development anymore, it's dropped. > > > > Personally I think that's bonkers, but there you go, what do I know. > > I'm just a user... > > [snip] > > I agree, I *like* xmms, and I've never had any problem with it. > > There's no reason you couldn't get the version from a previous Debian > release and install it - it shouldn't have any dependency issues because > all of your version numbers will (likely) be higher than it requires. > > It does mean, however, that you keep a copy of the .deb lying around for > future re-installs. > > I have, however, switched to using mpd - not sure if xmms can control > mpd, never investigated, it does what I want through a web-browser. > > Justin. > I haven't found anything that works as well as xmms or is as easy to use, so I just downloaded the source and compiled it - not too difficult. -- Will J G |