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From: tripletask on 31 Jul 2010 15:14 Imagine Obama contemplating the massive black furry gulch of Michelle.
From: BURT on 31 Jul 2010 16:08 On Jul 31, 1:23 am, DougC <priga...(a)aol.com> wrote: > BURT wrote: > > > If light doesn't slow down in empty space it has no escape velocity > > like matter. Outgoing light cannot be dragged backward into a black > > hole. Gravity can never overcome light. > > Gravity bends light. Easily observed. Look up "lensing." > > Light does not reflect when it hits a black hole. That's why it > remains black and why it is called a hole. > > Doug Chandler Light always overcomes gravity. Light never slows down like matter does in gravity and can't be dragged backward. Black holes violate laws. We are not seeing black holes. What we are seeing is short of a black hole. Mitch Raemsch
From: Autymn D. C. on 2 Aug 2010 04:24 On Jul 31, 1:23 am, DougC <priga...(a)aol.com> wrote: > BURT wrote: > > > If light doesn't slow down in empty space it has no escape velocity > > like matter. Outgoing light cannot be dragged backward into a black > > hole. Gravity can never overcome light. > > Gravity bends light. Easily observed. Look up "lensing." > > Light does not reflect when it hits a black hole. That's why it > remains black and why it is called a hole. > > Doug Chandler BURT is wriht here. BHs are fake: http://twitter.com/alysdexia. And they couldn't be born in finite time... -Aut
From: Sam Wormley on 2 Aug 2010 08:26 On 8/2/10 3:24 AM, Autymn D. C. wrote: > BURT is wriht here. BHs are fake:http://twitter.com/alysdexia. And > they couldn't be born in finite time... > > -Aut From who's perspective? Physics FAQ: Are There Any Good Books on Relativity Theory? http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Administrivia/rel_booklist.html
From: Mathal on 2 Aug 2010 10:10
On Aug 2, 5:26 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 8/2/10 3:24 AM, Autymn D. C. wrote: > > > BURT is wriht here. BHs are fake:http://twitter.com/alysdexia. And > > they couldn't be born in finite time... > > > -Aut > > From who's perspective? > > Physics FAQ: Are There Any Good Books on Relativity Theory? > http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Administrivia/rel_booklist.html Time in different frames is slower or faster than in other frames. In GR terms the Schwarzchild radius of any mass is like the speed of light is to mass in SR terms. The closer a mass gets to being inside it's Schwatzchild radius the slower time operates relative to when the mass was smaller/or less dense. Around this mass approaching it's Schwatzschild radius time operates slower too, just not as slow. Yes, of course, the perception in the frame is that everything is chugging along at the 'usual' pace, but it isn't from any perspective far from the object . From outside the event, the event hasn't occured yet, because it hasn't. If you understood relativity you would understand that. Mathal |