From: Charlie Hoffpauir on 8 Aug 2010 12:49 On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 10:38:05 -0500, PeoplesChoice(a)Chicago.net wrote: >If I decide to build my own computer, what recourse do I have if it >doesn't work? How would I determine which component is bad or >incorrectly connected, etc.? > >Thanks.... > >Bob Bob, First, you have to know "a little" before starting out on such a project, at a minimum, where to go to get help. I've built up computers since the 70's when building your own meant soldering chips to a circuit board, and altho it's lots easier now, the computers are also much more sophisticated. You can get a lot of help by asking questions in this newsgroup, and there are specific usenet groups for specific components, but again, you need to understand a bit so you will know what to ask, and where to ask it. (by the way, my first computer monitor (a kit) didn't work, but the kit supplier had a policy of troubleshooting it, so off it went and for about $30 came back working. I doubt that such a service exists anywhere now.) -- Charlie Hoffpauir Everything is what it is because it got that way....D'Arcy Thompson
From: Bob on 8 Aug 2010 14:07 On Aug 8, 11:38 am, PeoplesCho...(a)Chicago.net wrote: > If I decide to build my own computer, what recourse do I have if it > doesn't work? How would I determine which component is bad or > incorrectly connected, etc.? > > Thanks.... > > Bob "Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring." -- Bob Day http://bobday.vze.com
From: Rick on 8 Aug 2010 15:35 On 8/8/2010 11:07 AM, John Doe wrote: > PeoplesChoice Chicago.net wrote: > >> If I decide to build my own computer, what recourse do I have if >> it doesn't work? How would I determine which component is bad >> or incorrectly connected, etc.? > > If you are trying to save money, forget it. If you want to build > your own computer because you want to be able to troubleshoot it > and you want a computer that is finely customized to your needs, > you can start by buying a new or used computer that can be > upgraded, and go from there. > > When you put the pieces together, you should start with the bare > necessities. The case, the mainboard/motherboard, the power > supply, the CPU, one stick of memory, the monitor, and then see if > that gets you into the BIOS. I usually put everything together, > but if a difficult problem arises, I hunker down and do it the > that way. That is how you troubleshoot a build. Also, having a > different computer with access to the Internet is a good idea. > Also, you should have spare parts that you can swap. That one is a > good reason to start with a used or new computer that can be > customized. > > After upgrading/building your own for a while, you end up with > lots more spare parts (especially connectors) then you need. That > helps take care of troubleshooting. IMO bad idea -- Rick Holbrook Fargo, ND N 46�53'251" W 096�48'279" Remember the USS Liberty http://www.ussliberty.org/ Reply to: fholbrook(at)cableone.net
From: John Doe on 8 Aug 2010 15:45 Rick <fholbrook nospam.cableone.net> wrote: > John Doe wrote: >> PeoplesChoice Chicago.net wrote: >>> If I decide to build my own computer, what recourse do I have >>> if it doesn't work? How would I determine which component is >>> bad or incorrectly connected, etc.? >> >> If you are trying to save money, forget it. If you want to >> build your own computer because you want to be able to >> troubleshoot it and you want a computer that is finely >> customized to your needs, you can start by buying a new or used >> computer that can be upgraded, and go from there. >> >> When you put the pieces together, you should start with the >> bare necessities. The case, the mainboard/motherboard, the >> power supply, the CPU, one stick of memory, the monitor, and >> then see if that gets you into the BIOS. I usually put >> everything together, but if a difficult problem arises, I >> hunker down and do it the that way. That is how you >> troubleshoot a build. Also, having a different computer with >> access to the Internet is a good idea. Also, you should have >> spare parts that you can swap. That one is a good reason to >> start with a used or new computer that can be customized. >> >> After upgrading/building your own for a while, you end up with >> lots more spare parts (especially connectors) then you need. >> That helps take care of troubleshooting. > IMO bad idea Fuckturd? -- > > -- > > Rick Holbrook > Fargo, ND > N 46�53'251" > W 096�48'279" > > > Remember the USS Liberty > http://www.ussliberty.org/ > > Reply to: fholbrook(at)cableone.net > > > > > > > > Path: news.astraweb.com!border1.newsrouter.astraweb.com!feed.news.qwest.net!mpls-nntp-04.inet.qwest.net!216.196.98.151.MISMATCH!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail > NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2010 14:35:32 -0500 > Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2010 14:35:15 -0500 > From: Rick <fholbrook nospam.cableone.net> > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt > Subject: Re: What if I screw up??? > References: <dnjt56h6pv57l05n35es0rn3sv5r913mcj 4ax.com> <4c5ed628$0$10447$c3e8da3 news.astraweb.com> > In-Reply-To: <4c5ed628$0$10447$c3e8da3 news.astraweb.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Message-ID: <IO2dnax1seaZmsLRnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d giganews.com> > Lines: 46 > X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com > X-Trace: sv3-WhoMI75XIWJEDUbAxzDWpWqU4GLzO/BkaycjfAtgL1H5JjNK03xfilFYDznvjoKgMnfJxWWViZnsAtT!Uaz+DTeMTkNDvZFsooG93igS0HhFRjkOehBMivAK7HQsPvByAWDjSDBG32LmYDbchmqP3CYvxbe0 > X-Complaints-To: abuse giganews.com > X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html > X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers > X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly > X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 > Bytes: 2880 > X-Original-Bytes: 2816 >
From: DJT on 8 Aug 2010 17:02 On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 23:57:48 +0800, Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On 8/8/2010 23:56, Man-wai Chang wrote: >> On 8/8/2010 23:38, PeoplesChoice(a)Chicago.net wrote: >>> If I decide to build my own computer, what recourse do I have if it >>> doesn't work? How would I determine which component is bad or >>> incorrectly connected, etc.? >> >> Best way out is to find a friend who knows about DIY PC! >> > >... and do your homework by google-ing "how to build your own pc" If you are in Australia you can still pick the parts and get the local PC Shop to build it for you. Thats what I do and it costs an extra $80-$90 to have exactly what you want DJT
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