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From: Richard Maine on 20 Dec 2009 13:54 AES <siegman(a)stanford.edu> wrote: > In article <1jaz2z3.ej4ac11m9w6dmN%nospam(a)see.signature>, > nospam(a)see.signature (Richard Maine) wrote: > > > I'm currently using BookCollector (collectorz.com). It handles thousands > > of books quite nicely. So do quite a few competitors. > > Except, none of them really _handle_ the books literally or position > them physically, do they? -- that is, decide where the books themselves > are to be physically located, in the way that iTunes or iPhoto, > operating in default mode, decide where their physical files are to be > located? That was the point to my "iBooks" parody. Not the books literally, but certainly the computer data about them, which is to say everything that is in the computer. That data is in a database, which is completely incomprehensible without going through the application (typical of databases). I don't think the analogy holds water well. If one insists on talking about the physical books, then the closest analogy would also be other physical media such as my old vinyl records. ITunes doesn't do anything to those either. -- Richard Maine | Good judgment comes from experience; email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgment. domain: summertriangle | -- Mark Twain
From: Doug Anderson on 20 Dec 2009 15:13 AES <siegman(a)stanford.edu> writes: > In article <1jaz2z3.ej4ac11m9w6dmN%nospam(a)see.signature>, > nospam(a)see.signature (Richard Maine) wrote: > > > I'm currently using BookCollector (collectorz.com). It handles thousands > > of books quite nicely. So do quite a few competitors. > > > > Except, none of them really _handle_ the books literally or position > them physically, do they? -- that is, decide where the books themselves > are to be physically located, in the way that iTunes or iPhoto, > operating in default mode, decide where their physical files are to be > located? That was the point to my "iBooks" parody. If I were to try to take your iBooks parody seriously, I'd have to consider applying it to a collection of digital books. Then I would want "iBooks" to do exactly what iTunes would do. Allow me to find books by author, title, and genre. (And yes, I'd probably have to invent my own genres just as I do informally when shelving my books.) That sounds good to me. But then if you wanted to arrange your digital books some other way (say, by what color the author's first name reminded you) you'd be well-advised to stay away from this hypothetical iBooks.
From: erilar on 20 Dec 2009 19:36 In article <4b2e5655$1(a)news.victoria.tc.ca>, ws917(a)vtn1.victoria.tc.ca (Frank P. Eigler) wrote: > AV3 (arvimide(a)earthlink.net) wrote: > > : Note that I originally said that my objection concerned searching on the > : hard disk and that iTunes made such a search easier by naming its files > : according to artist and album name. > > Only true if you're buying the tune online, or used CDDB/Gracenote on an > imported disk. Otherwise, you're starting off with whatever naming > convention was used by the guy who made the file Most of the commercial CDs I feed into iTunes carry information. Chopping up and naming tracks from cassettes is even harder than with LPs, though, it seems. -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo
From: nospam on 20 Dec 2009 19:58 In article <drache-C1AD84.18365220122009(a)news.eternal-september.org>, erilar <drache(a)chibardun.net.invalid> wrote: > Most of the commercial CDs I feed into iTunes carry information. itunes gets the information off the 'net. it's not on the cd itself.
From: AV3 on 20 Dec 2009 21:22
On Dec/20/2009 7:3652 PM, erilar wrote: > In article<4b2e5655$1(a)news.victoria.tc.ca>, > ws917(a)vtn1.victoria.tc.ca (Frank P. Eigler) wrote: > >> AV3 (arvimide(a)earthlink.net) wrote: > >> >> : Note that I originally said that my objection concerned searching on the >> : hard disk and that iTunes made such a search easier by naming its files >> : according to artist and album name. >> >> Only true if you're buying the tune online, or used CDDB/Gracenote on an >> imported disk. Otherwise, you're starting off with whatever naming >> convention was used by the guy who made the file > > Most of the commercial CDs I feed into iTunes carry information. > Chopping up and naming tracks from cassettes is even harder than with > LPs, though, it seems. > iTunes for Mac gets its information for a particular CD off the web from Gracenote. But, unlike some (Rhythmbox in Ubuntu, for instance), the info is retained on a Mac and will continue to be displayed whenever you reinsert that CD, whether you are connected to the web or not. If you have a CD not yet registered with Gracenote, you can enter the info yourself and transmit it through iTunes to Gracenote for future users through the menu "Advanced"->"Submit CD Track Names". But if you insert a new CD while not connected to the web, you will get no info about its name, track names, etc. -- ++====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====+====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====++ ||Arnold VICTOR, New York City, i. e., <arvimideQ(a)Wearthlink.net> || ||Arnoldo VIKTORO, Nov-jorkurbo, t. e., <arvimideQ(a)Wearthlink.net> || ||Remove capital letters from e-mail address for correct address/ || || Forigu majusklajn literojn el e-poŝta adreso por ĝusta adreso || ++====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====+====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====++ |