From: erilar on
In article <copespaz-89AC75.03554817122009(a)nothing.attdns.com>,
MC <copespaz(a)mapca.inter.net> wrote:

>
> Graphic Converter is a useful shareware program. It does what it does
> really well.
>
> There's a stripped down version of Photoshop called Photoshop Elements.
> Not sure what it costs but I think it's around $100.

ColorIt! is cheaper and does far more than GC. Having used its earlier
incarnations for years before encountering iPhoto, the latter's "editing
capabilities" really struck me as pitiful.

--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist


http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo
From: Jolly Roger on
In article <drache-88E6B2.15143717122009(a)nothing.attdns.com>,
erilar <drache(a)chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-9E676F.09321417122009(a)news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > iPhoto is really is quite good at doing those basic things, IMO.
>
> Just don't try to do any real editing with it!

It's not an image editor. It's a photo organizer. Use the right tool for
the job.

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From: Jochem Huhmann on
erilar <drache(a)chibardun.net.invalid> writes:

> In article <jollyroger-9E676F.09321417122009(a)news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> iPhoto is really is quite good at doing those basic things, IMO.
>
> Just don't try to do any real editing with it!

For an photo *organizer* its editing capabilities aren't all that bad,
really. Recent versions do incremental editing, so you can change and
undo your edits at any point later on and for the basic things
(cropping, adjusting colors/brightness/contrast) it works just fine and
comfortable.


Jochem

--
"A designer knows he has arrived at perfection not when there is no
longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
From: Jochem Huhmann on
erilar <drache(a)chibardun.net.invalid> writes:

> In article <YoadnR8fuc5PQLTWnZ2dnUVZ_hpi4p2d(a)earthlink.com>,
> Ant <ant(a)zimage.comANT> wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> One of my clients does not like Apple Mac OS X 10.5.7's iPhoto which is
>> limited and confusing to him. He doesn't like how albums, layouts, etc.
>> work. We would like to know if there are better softwares (freeware if
>> possible) to handle digital pictures/photographs on a MacBook Pro.
>>
>> Thank you in advance. :)
>
> I disliked it from day 1. However, I had been keeping my fotos in
> nested folders previously and just went back to that, including moving
> the ones iPhoto had mismanaged. No program as such, just labeled
> folders nested within other labeled folders.

You do know though that you can tell iPhoto to *not* copy photos into
its own folders when importing? It's a simple checkbox in the
preferences. It will then know about the photos and you can use it to do
whatever you want, but it won't move them around at all. But letting it
copy the photos is still much more comfortable.

I hated iPhoto from day one, too. But then I tried it nonetheless and
started to like it. It just takes so much manual work out of the
organizing that most of the time I don't even care about file names and
where the actual photos are. Plug in camera, let iPhoto import the
photos, rate and edit and crop them, drag them out to make a copy if you
want to carry them or edit them elsewhere. Sometimes giving up a bit of
control and let the computer care for all the boring things is exactly
what computers are for, I think.


Jochem

--
"A designer knows he has arrived at perfection not when there is no
longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
From: AES on
In article <C74FD9C5.4813B8%bobhaar(a)me.com>,
Robert Haar <bobhaar(a)me.com> wrote:

> you head around the concepts, it is fairly powerful. The key part of this is
> that all the organizing and cataloging is done within iPhoto. Don't create
> file/folder structures outside of iPhoto and expect iPhoto to honor that
> structure.

That final sentence encapsulates exactly why iPhoto and, worse, iTunes
are insanely great apps for some people -- indeed all too many people --
and are absolutely and unremittingly hated by other people like me --
although unfortunately there are just not enough of us.

The key aspect of my use of a Mac laptop as the core of my personal and
professional life is precisely a file/folder structure which organizes
all the varying topics (professional projects, hobbies, interests) in
which I'm interested -- a structure which I've created myself, so that I
therefore know exactly how its organized.

If one such topic is Churchill, say, then there's a Churchill folder (or
set of nested folders) into which goes photos of Churchill, audio files
of his speeches, texts of his speeches or writings, essays about him,
audio or video files of seminars or documentaries about Churchill, URLs
linking to web pages about him, bibliographies, maps of his travels,
photos and drawings of Clerkwell, etc., etc., etc.

I don't happen to have such a file on Churchill, but if I did, opening
the topic level folder in the Finder, especially in column view, would
give me a global overview of everything what I had about him and
immediate access to any of it. Dragging that folder onto iView MediaPro
would give me near instantaneously a superb catalog of every bit of
graphic material I had about him (or update an existing catalog). And
any time I encountered a bit of Churchilliana, anywhere, I could
immediate capture it into the right place by just dragging it into the
top level folder and doing the detailed sorting later. All of this,
right in the Finder.

Try that using tools like iPhoto or iTunes.
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