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From: RichT on 13 Mar 2010 04:09 "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlookmvp(a)msn.com> wrote in message news:e4YpdkiwKHA.4752(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > I'd stick with Outlook for now. It's not going anywhere fast. Whether it > will sync with the cloud is another story - I doubt much will change, but > you can use a live account and the connector if you want everything in the > cloud. > I've tried the connector - it works very poorly, and doesn't sync tasks and notes, and only syncs a hotmail or a live account. I have about six pop email accounts. And also there is no way to sync online to a mobile phone. I currently use syncpst for item level synchronisation between PC and laptop - but surely MS can implement something like this over their live sync service?
From: RichT on 13 Mar 2010 04:15 "VanguardLH" <V(a)nguard.LH> wrote in message news:hnem0p$24q$1(a)news.albasani.net... > RichT wrote: > >> Microsoft seem to be abandoning Outlook (unless you use are a corporate >> user and have Exchange server). > > And where did you come up with that prediction? Guess you haven't heard > about the beta for Outlook 2010. Doesn't live sync though does it - it doesn't offer anything new over Outlook 2003 that is useful to me. > >> I'm a private user - but having online sycn >> across a variety of devices is still important to me. This is not >> possible >> with outlook - unless you have Exchange. > > Oh, what you really mean is that you no longer get to use the Exchange > server at your old company where you no longer work. So get an IMAP > account. Tried IMAP - clumsy, only syncs inbox and and doesn't sync sent items. > >> So my question is - do I abandon outlook amd move to Windows live mail >> (with >> its shortfalls compared to Outlook)? > > And what is Windows Live Mail (WLM) going to give you that you can't get > in > Outlook (which presumably you have a legit license)? Based on your wrong > premise that Outlook must work with Exchange to support sync to your > "devices", and since WLM doesn't work with Exchange, just how would you > lose > anything in Outlook that you wouldn't already lose in WLM? It seems that WLM is MS preferred option for private users - Outlook seems to be optimised to work with Exchange for corporate use. > >> Or should I hang on to Outlook in the >> hope that Microsoft will implement cloud synchronisation for Outlook? > > Guess you'll actually have to explain to *us* just what you really mean by > "synchronization". I mean item sync, as done (for example) by Syncpst. It syncs everything in Outlook - tasks, notes, inbox, outbox, draft, deleted items. Ideally I'd like a system like that which works over Live Sync
From: RichT on 13 Mar 2010 04:46 "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlookmvp(a)msn.com> wrote in message news:e4YpdkiwKHA.4752(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > I'd stick with Outlook for now. It's not going anywhere fast. Whether it > will sync with the cloud is another story - I doubt much will change, but > you can use a live account and the connector if you want everything in the > cloud. Why are you so sure Outlook is here to stay? MS abandoned Money, which was a great program. And recently MS announced that they were putting all their future into cloud computing - how does Outlook fit into that strategy if they are not going to implement cloud sync at item level?
From: Diane Poremsky [MVP] on 13 Mar 2010 09:15 How many users did Money have? Was it at the top of the market? (if it was, it was only because they gave it away free after rebate) Was it something that nearly *every* computer user needed? (no) 1. The cloud has its limitations. 2. Many, many users will still want an "offline" reader. 3. Outlook has millions of "seats" and is the #1 client used in corps. OE/Mail/WLM is #1 overall. 4. There are a surprisingly large number of people still using Outlook 97, 98 and 2000. 5. There will be at least one more version of Outlook in the works (after 2010) as we know it. Figure 2 -3 years for its release... and you can use the old version as long as you want (see above). -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/ Outlook Tips by email: mailto:dailytips-subscribe-request(a)lists.outlooktips.net EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQUEST(a)PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM Do you sync your mailbox with a smartphone or pda? http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=39473 "RichT" <nospam(a)blackhole.com> wrote in message news:1E727CB2-E76E-4A95-A911-469C62222900(a)microsoft.com... > > > "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlookmvp(a)msn.com> wrote in message > news:e4YpdkiwKHA.4752(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> I'd stick with Outlook for now. It's not going anywhere fast. Whether it >> will sync with the cloud is another story - I doubt much will change, but >> you can use a live account and the connector if you want everything in >> the cloud. > > > Why are you so sure Outlook is here to stay? MS abandoned Money, which was > a great program. And recently MS announced that they were putting all > their future into cloud computing - how does Outlook fit into that > strategy if they are not going to implement cloud sync at item level?
From: Diane Poremsky [MVP] on 13 Mar 2010 09:19 Eventually, they might. The live sync service is new and they are working the bugs out. -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/ Outlook Tips by email: mailto:dailytips-subscribe-request(a)lists.outlooktips.net EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQUEST(a)PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM Do you sync your mailbox with a smartphone or pda? http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=39473 "RichT" <spam(a)fraybentos.com> wrote in message news:85A70DE8-34E0-4E0A-9998-7585CAD50AA6(a)microsoft.com... > > > "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlookmvp(a)msn.com> wrote in message > news:e4YpdkiwKHA.4752(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> I'd stick with Outlook for now. It's not going anywhere fast. Whether it >> will sync with the cloud is another story - I doubt much will change, but >> you can use a live account and the connector if you want everything in >> the cloud. >> > I've tried the connector - it works very poorly, and doesn't sync tasks > and notes, and only syncs a hotmail or a live account. I have about six > pop email accounts. And also there is no way to sync online to a mobile > phone. > > I currently use syncpst for item level synchronisation between PC and > laptop - but surely MS can implement something like this over their live > sync service? > > >
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