From: Androcles on 24 Sep 2009 15:46 "Bill Miller" <billmillerkt4ye(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:7i1r50F2v3gcgU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > "Androcles" <Headmaster(a)Hogwarts.physics_o> wrote in message > news:ovMum.150320$Xh5.91831(a)newsfe01.ams2... >> >> "Bill Miller" <billmillerkt4ye(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote in message >> news:7i1dqvF2vn8paU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>> > <snip>> >> For an RC circuit, >> >> a-----/\/\/\/\/\/----b-----||------c >> >> merely allow the voltage across bc to reach the value across ac >> (charge the capacitor) and then reverse the polarity across ac >> and measure bc before the cap discharges. >> It's called voltage doubling and you can block the discharge >> of the cap with a diode. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_multiplier >> >> If you disagree then I do not care what your opinion is. >> Actually I don't care what your opinion is even if you agree, >> it won't prevent voltage multipliers working. >> > Well... lets add a few MORE components and make the simple RC circuit into > an inverter so that you can get whatever value that you wish across the > capacitor. There ya go. Who said it couldn't be done? <snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip> Oops, nothing left. Do not bother to reply, I shall snip it first.
From: Androcles on 24 Sep 2009 15:48 "Bill Miller" <billmillerkt4ye(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:7i1u2eF2vqaeaU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > "Androcles" <Headmaster(a)Hogwarts.physics_o> wrote in message > news:D7Mum.182214$I07.168057(a)newsfe04.ams2... >> > <snip> >> E and B are 90 degrees out of phase in radio waves! >> One causes the other, energy is conserved. > <snip> Gladly. Always pleased to provide a snip when requested. There ya go, mission accomplished. Anything else I can snip for you?
From: Bill Miller on 24 Sep 2009 17:26 "Androcles" <Headmaster(a)Hogwarts.physics_o> wrote in message news:k2Qum.117169$tM2.101859(a)newsfe23.ams2... > > "Bill Miller" <billmillerkt4ye(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote in message > news:7i1r50F2v3gcgU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> >> "Androcles" <Headmaster(a)Hogwarts.physics_o> wrote in message >> news:ovMum.150320$Xh5.91831(a)newsfe01.ams2... >>> >>> "Bill Miller" <billmillerkt4ye(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote in message >>> news:7i1dqvF2vn8paU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>> >> <snip>> >>> For an RC circuit, >>> >>> a-----/\/\/\/\/\/----b-----||------c >>> >>> merely allow the voltage across bc to reach the value across ac >>> (charge the capacitor) and then reverse the polarity across ac >>> and measure bc before the cap discharges. >>> It's called voltage doubling and you can block the discharge >>> of the cap with a diode. >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_multiplier >>> >>> If you disagree then I do not care what your opinion is. >>> Actually I don't care what your opinion is even if you agree, >>> it won't prevent voltage multipliers working. >>> >> Well... lets add a few MORE components and make the simple RC circuit >> into an inverter so that you can get whatever value that you wish across >> the capacitor. > > There ya go. Who said it couldn't be done? > > <snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip> > > Oops, nothing left. > Do not bother to reply, I shall snip it first. > Ah yes. Secret agents used to do that during the War. The technique was called "Burn Before Reading." Kept the Nazis at bay for the entire war. > > > > > >
From: Bill Miller on 24 Sep 2009 17:28 "Androcles" <Headmaster(a)Hogwarts.physics_o> wrote in message news:l2Qum.117170$tM2.110504(a)newsfe23.ams2... > > "Bill Miller" <billmillerkt4ye(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote in message > news:7i1u2eF2vqaeaU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> >> "Androcles" <Headmaster(a)Hogwarts.physics_o> wrote in message >> news:D7Mum.182214$I07.168057(a)newsfe04.ams2... >>> >> <snip> >>> E and B are 90 degrees out of phase in radio waves! >>> One causes the other, energy is conserved. >> <snip> > > Gladly. Always pleased to provide a snip when requested. > There ya go, mission accomplished. > Anything else I can snip for you? > > All together now, "There are none so blind, As those that will not see!" All the best, Bill
From: Don Kelly on 24 Sep 2009 17:30
-- "Don Kelly" <dhky(a)shawcross.ca> wrote in message news:UZCum.12091$tG1.1922(a)newsfe22.iad... > > > -- > > "Benj" <bjacoby(a)iwaynet.net> wrote in message > news:5e4d53b6-63ae-46f3-8396-6f7e58e26a25(a)f10g2000vbf.googlegroups.com... > On Sep 22, 11:40 pm, "Don Kelly" <d...(a)shawcross.ca> wrote: > > > As to the questions- > #1 Poynting points the way- I would suggest that there is a double > frequency power component which has a 0 time average. This is somewhat of > an intuitive answer. -- I now have the problem that the described wave is apparently a TEM wave for which E and H are 90 degrees out of phase. Since the E and H components are related by root(muo/epso) which is real, it would appear that the 90 degree phase shift is a wee problem. thrown into the picture. I should have spotted this before. -- Don Kelly dhky(a)shawcross.ca remove the x to reply |