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From: Roger Mills on 17 Jan 2010 10:53
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:

> In news:7rg7dkF6urU1(a)mid.individual.net,
> Roger Mills typed on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:34:30 -0000:
>> [You'll need to create a bootable system on a floppy (or other
>> bootable media recognised by the laptop's BIOS) containing PC-DOS,
>> Ghost.exe and support for a network connection].
>
> What version of Ghost are you running that runs under DOS? As all
> later versions runs under Windows or Windows PE (aka BartPE or WinPE)
> and are known as Ghost32. Does Ghost for DOS understand NTFS formats?


I'm running Norton Ghost 2003 - and, yes, it understands NTFS. You can run
some functions under Windows, but have to resort to a version running from a
bootable DOS device to make an image of a system disk [1]. If you back up to
another machine over a network, the other machine can be running Windows.

[I'm not quite sure how you would clone a *live* Windows system, 'cos you'd
be aiming at a moving target!]

[1] You create the bootable system from within the Windows version,
specifiying what support you need for USB, Firewire or network devices so
that it includes the required drivers.
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From: BillW50 on 17 Jan 2010 11:15
In news:7rgq2rFj2mU1(a)mid.individual.net,
Roger Mills typed on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 15:53:01 -0000:
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>
>> In news:7rg7dkF6urU1(a)mid.individual.net,
>> Roger Mills typed on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:34:30 -0000:
>>> [You'll need to create a bootable system on a floppy (or other
>>> bootable media recognised by the laptop's BIOS) containing PC-DOS,
>>> Ghost.exe and support for a network connection].
>>
>> What version of Ghost are you running that runs under DOS? As all
>> later versions runs under Windows or Windows PE (aka BartPE or WinPE)
>> and are known as Ghost32. Does Ghost for DOS understand NTFS formats?
>
> I'm running Norton Ghost 2003 - and, yes, it understands NTFS. You
> can run some functions under Windows, but have to resort to a version
> running from a bootable DOS device to make an image of a system disk
> [1]. If you back up to another machine over a network, the other
> machine can be running Windows.
> [I'm not quite sure how you would clone a *live* Windows system, 'cos
> you'd be aiming at a moving target!]
>
> [1] You create the bootable system from within the Windows version,
> specifiying what support you need for USB, Firewire or network
> devices so that it includes the required drivers.

Oh so you have both Ghost.exe and Ghost32.exe with Ghost 2003, right?

The trick to clone a live Windows is sometimes done through Windows VSS
(services). Sometimes third party backup programs use their own version
of the service.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Copy

I have used many different backup programs like Acronis True Image and
Paragon. And when they work, they work well. But they don't work in all
conditions especially when restoring. Ghost is the only one that has
worked under all conditions so far. The only time Ghost messed up for me
was for Linux. But that could have been my fault for not cloning all
partitions.

I don't recall which version of Ghost started to need .NET2, but it was
somewhere around 2003 I believe. But Ghost.exe and Ghost32.exe don't
obviously. ;-)

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3


From: Sjouke Burry on 17 Jan 2010 12:18
BillW50 wrote:
> In news:7rg7dkF6urU1(a)mid.individual.net,
> Roger Mills typed on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:34:30 -0000:
>> [You'll need to create a bootable system on a floppy (or other
>> bootable media recognised by the laptop's BIOS) containing PC-DOS,
>> Ghost.exe and support for a network connection].
>
> What version of Ghost are you running that runs under DOS? As all later
> versions runs under Windows or Windows PE (aka BartPE or WinPE) and are
> known as Ghost32. Does Ghost for DOS understand NTFS formats?
>
Ghost2003 runs on freedos form a bootable CD, and
does a fine job of making an image copy of an ntfs OS drive.
From: Roger Mills on 17 Jan 2010 14:24
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:

>
> Oh so you have both Ghost.exe and Ghost32.exe with Ghost 2003, right?
>

Dunno! Can't find Ghost32.exe per se in the Ghost folder in Program Files -
although there are lots of .exe files whose names start with Ghost - like
GhostStart.exe - and there's a file called gdisk32.exe

--
Cheers,
Roger
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From: BillW50 on 17 Jan 2010 14:45
In news:7rh6fqFvohU1(a)mid.individual.net,
Roger Mills typed on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:24:45 -0000:
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>
>> Oh so you have both Ghost.exe and Ghost32.exe with Ghost 2003, right?
>
> Dunno! Can't find Ghost32.exe per se in the Ghost folder in Program
> Files - although there are lots of .exe files whose names start with
> Ghost - like GhostStart.exe - and there's a file called gdisk32.exe

Maybe it is only there for the versions that uses WinPE boot disc
instead of DOS boot disc.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3


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