What makes a trivial operator trivial ?
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From: Huang on 14 Feb 2010 14:22 > > ========================================== > > An empty oil barrel is NOT a dog's breakfast. > > An empty oil barrel is NOT the 8:30 to London on platform 2. > > An empty oil barrel is NOT an apple. > > One can construct an infinite list of what things are not and the list > > contains (useful information) NOT. > > Tell us what an empty oil barrel IS and how to distinguish it from > > an empty apple barrel. > > > An empty apple barrel IS the same as an empty oil barrel until > > you write "Apples" on the staves to make it different. > > I dare say you don't know much about barrels. > =================================== > I dare say what you know about mathematics is contained in the > empty space between your ears. > Answer the question: > How do I distinguish an empty oil barrel from an empty apple barrel, > you anencephalous cretin?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - If you have no oil barrel, you have zero oil barrels. Essentially there is no oil barrel. It is not possible to distinguish between barrel of oil and barrel of apples when you have zero of each. This is because of anti-uniqueness. Zero apples is indistinguishable from zero oranges or zero of anything else. Zero apples is a trivial apple. Zero oranges is a trivial orange. Zero of anything has the property of anti-uniqueness. If you have zero of something, it may be regarded that it is indeterminate whather it is an apple, orange, galaxy, dumptruck, whatever. Indeterminacy is clearly an important part of this problem.
From: Androcles on 14 Feb 2010 16:37 "Huang" <huangxienchen(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ce37c437-f52c-42a6-aa84-06122c954ddc(a)z19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com... > > ========================================== > > An empty oil barrel is NOT a dog's breakfast. > > An empty oil barrel is NOT the 8:30 to London on platform 2. > > An empty oil barrel is NOT an apple. > > One can construct an infinite list of what things are not and the list > > contains (useful information) NOT. > > Tell us what an empty oil barrel IS and how to distinguish it from > > an empty apple barrel. > > > An empty apple barrel IS the same as an empty oil barrel until > > you write "Apples" on the staves to make it different. > > I dare say you don't know much about barrels. > =================================== > I dare say what you know about mathematics is contained in the > empty space between your ears. > Answer the question: > How do I distinguish an empty oil barrel from an empty apple barrel, > you anencephalous cretin?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - If you have no oil barrel, you have zero oil barrels. ============================================= Oh, but I do... I have 3 empty oil barrels and 4 empty apple barrels. How do I distinguish an empty oil barrel from an empty apple barrel? I dare say you don't know much about barrels. Essentially there is no oil barrel. ============================================= Essentially there are 3 empty oil barrels and seven barrels. Essentially I want to know how I distinguish an empty oil barrel from an empty apple barrel? I dare say you don't know much about barrels. It is not possible to distinguish between barrel of oil and barrel of apples when you have zero of each. ============================================= But I don't have zero of each, I have zero oil, zero apples and SEVEN EMPTY barrels. I dare say you don't know much about barrels. How do I distinguish an empty oil barrel from an empty apple barrel?
From: Huang on 14 Feb 2010 19:04 On Feb 14, 3:37 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...(a)Hogwarts.physics_u> wrote: > "Huang" <huangxienc...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:ce37c437-f52c-42a6-aa84-06122c954ddc(a)z19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > > ========================================== > > > An empty oil barrel is NOT a dog's breakfast. > > > An empty oil barrel is NOT the 8:30 to London on platform 2. > > > An empty oil barrel is NOT an apple. > > > One can construct an infinite list of what things are not and the list > > > contains (useful information) NOT. > > > Tell us what an empty oil barrel IS and how to distinguish it from > > > an empty apple barrel. > > > > An empty apple barrel IS the same as an empty oil barrel until > > > you write "Apples" on the staves to make it different. > > > I dare say you don't know much about barrels. > > =================================== > > I dare say what you know about mathematics is contained in the > > empty space between your ears. > > Answer the question: > > How do I distinguish an empty oil barrel from an empty apple barrel, > > you anencephalous cretin?- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > If you have no oil barrel, you have zero oil barrels. > ============================================= > Oh, but I do... I have 3 empty oil barrels and 4 empty > apple barrels. How do I distinguish an empty oil barrel from > an empty apple barrel? > I dare say you don't know much about barrels. > > Essentially > there is no oil barrel. > ============================================= > Essentially there are 3 empty oil barrels and seven barrels. > Essentially I want to know how I distinguish an empty oil barrel from > an empty apple barrel? > I dare say you don't know much about barrels. > > It is not possible to distinguish between > barrel of oil and barrel of apples when you have zero of each. > ============================================= > But I don't have zero of each, I have zero oil, zero apples and SEVEN > EMPTY barrels. I dare say you don't know much about barrels. > > How do I distinguish an empty oil barrel from an empty apple barrel?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - If you have zero apples, you must choose to believe that it is really an apple. It is equally valid to believe that it loses it's identity as an apple, and is in fact anti-unique.
From: Huang on 14 Feb 2010 19:22 If you are looking for an argument, try arguing against this: "Every probabilistic problem can be restated in terms of existential indeterminacy, and conservation of existential potential." While you are at it, please explain why the expansion of the universe is neccesarily a global expansion, and not a local contraction ? I think that GR says that these motions are equivalent.....so.....what's up with that ?
From: Androcles on 14 Feb 2010 19:25
"Huang" <huangxienchen(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:14ebe92b-d9f8-4875-9867-3487870490e6(a)u9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > If you are looking use your eyes. You might see an empty apple barrel beside an empty oil barrel. How do you tell them apart? |