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From: Phil Allison on 23 Sep 2008 02:52 "Bob Howes" > > The early silver mics were, indeed, the Calrec C600 series. However, when > their deception graduated to black mics with standard XLR outputs I > believe those were AKG C451s. > > Indeed, there's a possiblity that the mics mentioned in the OP may have > been C451s since the old design had interchangeable capsules including one > that would have been suitable for close vocals. ** The only C451 system capsule suitable for hand held vocals was the CK5. It was black, 49mm in diameter and 72 mm long - with spring suspension of the mic element and internal wind shielding. ...... Phil
From: Phildo on 23 Sep 2008 03:23 "Mike Dobony" <sword(a)notasarian-host.net> wrote in message news:uwyziwna89ng$.18df1kjckoh62$.dlg(a)40tude.net... >>>> If you look at all the old Top Of The Pops TV shows in the UK back in >>>> the >>>> 70s when the vocalists actually sang live they all have very thin mics >>>> with >>>> no ball on the end. Not sure what they were as I haven't seen any >>>> repeats in >>>> years but I would love to know what they were, especially the radio >>>> versions >>>> with the silly antenna bits on the bottom. >>>> >>>> Phildo >>> >>> You're saying they don't actually sing, but lipsync? >> >> How many TV shows do you know where they actually sing, not lipsync? >> > > This was a live show, not TV. We've moved on Bony and are talking about TOTP now. Sorry that we had to shatter your illusion the whole newsgroup revolves around you. > How much coal did the Titanic carry? > Nuclear subs do not carry coal. You're a prick Bony. Go bother the xtian newsgroups even though they hate you as much there as we do here. Phildo
From: Ron(UK) on 23 Sep 2008 04:10 Bob Howes wrote: > > "Phildo" <Phil(a)phildo.net> wrote in message > news:_1OBk.55146$6m1.34562(a)newsfe16.ams2... >> >> "Joe Kotroczo" <kotroczo(a)mac.com> wrote in message >> news:C4FCEC15.6472D%kotroczo(a)mac.com... >>> On 22/09/08 4:33, in article 165rd1sb7pnpb.18x2qj97txecu.dlg(a)40tude.net, >>> "Michael Dobony" <survey(a)stopassaultnow.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:28:23 +1200, geoff wrote: >>>> >>>>> AKG C535 >>>> >>>> Nope, no ball at the end. Pure pencil mic, closer to a SM81 in >>>> black and >>>> straight and shorter. >>> >>> There's a fair number of mics that look like that. >>> >>> I'll make a wild guess and say Beyer M201. >> >> If you look at all the old Top Of The Pops TV shows in the UK back in >> the 70s when the vocalists actually sang live they all have very thin >> mics with no ball on the end. Not sure what they were as I haven't >> seen any repeats in years but I would love to know what they were, >> especially the radio versions with the silly antenna bits on the bottom. >> >> Phildo >> > > The early silver mics were, indeed, the Calrec C600 series. However, > when their deception graduated to black mics with standard XLR outputs I > believe those were AKG C451s. > > Indeed, there's a possiblity that the mics mentioned in the OP may have > been C451s since the old design had interchangeable capsules including > one that would have been suitable for close vocals. There was a Calrec which could be fitted with a long thin 'stalk' with the ball capsule on the end? Used for inshot interviews etc. I had one of those. They did a superb version which could be powered from a single AA battery. Ron(UK)
From: Ron(UK) on 23 Sep 2008 08:47 BJtheDJ(a)the.controls wrote: > On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:34:27 +0100, "Phildo" <Phil(a)phildo.net> wrote: > >> "Joe Kotroczo" <kotroczo(a)mac.com> wrote in message >> news:C4FCEC15.6472D%kotroczo(a)mac.com... >>> On 22/09/08 4:33, in article 165rd1sb7pnpb.18x2qj97txecu.dlg(a)40tude.net, >>> "Michael Dobony" <survey(a)stopassaultnow.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:28:23 +1200, geoff wrote: >>>> >>>>> AKG C535 >>>> Nope, no ball at the end. Pure pencil mic, closer to a SM81 in black and >>>> straight and shorter. >>> There's a fair number of mics that look like that. >>> >>> I'll make a wild guess and say Beyer M201. >> If you look at all the old Top Of The Pops TV shows in the UK back in the >> 70s when the vocalists actually sang live they all have very thin mics with >> no ball on the end. Not sure what they were as I haven't seen any repeats in >> years but I would love to know what they were, especially the radio versions >> with the silly antenna bits on the bottom. >> >> Phildo >> > > Calrecs most likely > http://www.saturn-sound.com/Curio's/calrec,_some_old_favorites.htm the BBC > had heaps of them. > > Came across a few of them in my garage last year, along with a > 'gold'-plated OEM version (for Simms-Watts) with a mesh screen manufactured > especially for Djs :) > Funny there`s no mention of the model I had which was powered by a single AA battery. It had a ball capsule which had to be unscrewed to replace the battery. I bought it directly off the rep who used to periodically call on my shop in the North West of England. This would be late/mid seventies. I had about ten of the 600 series and several various power units. A local club is still using them! Ron(UK)
From: Michael Dobony on 23 Sep 2008 11:51
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 06:27:54 GMT, Bob Howes wrote: > "Phildo" <Phil(a)phildo.net> wrote in message > news:_1OBk.55146$6m1.34562(a)newsfe16.ams2... >> >> "Joe Kotroczo" <kotroczo(a)mac.com> wrote in message >> news:C4FCEC15.6472D%kotroczo(a)mac.com... >>> On 22/09/08 4:33, in article 165rd1sb7pnpb.18x2qj97txecu.dlg(a)40tude.net, >>> "Michael Dobony" <survey(a)stopassaultnow.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:28:23 +1200, geoff wrote: >>>> >>>>> AKG C535 >>>> >>>> Nope, no ball at the end. Pure pencil mic, closer to a SM81 in black >>>> and >>>> straight and shorter. >>> >>> There's a fair number of mics that look like that. >>> >>> I'll make a wild guess and say Beyer M201. >> >> If you look at all the old Top Of The Pops TV shows in the UK back in the >> 70s when the vocalists actually sang live they all have very thin mics >> with no ball on the end. Not sure what they were as I haven't seen any >> repeats in years but I would love to know what they were, especially the >> radio versions with the silly antenna bits on the bottom. >> >> Phildo >> > > The early silver mics were, indeed, the Calrec C600 series. However, when > their deception graduated to black mics with standard XLR outputs I believe > those were AKG C451s. > > Indeed, there's a possiblity that the mics mentioned in the OP may have been > C451s since the old design had interchangeable capsules including one that > would have been suitable for close vocals. > > Bob The AKG C451 is over 6 inches long. This mic in question could be no more than 4.5 inches long. Part of the XLR jack was hidden in the hand and it barely stuck out more than a half inch on the other side. He did not have an exceptionally large hand, only a little larger than mine. |