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From: William Hughes on 21 May 2010 08:36
On May 21, 7:17 am, Graham Cooper <grahamcoop...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> there's 3 main theories,
> a/ random chemical reactions building into more and more complex life
> forms,
> b/ "spontaneous" creation of complex lifeforms, and
> c/ "guided" chemical reactions building into more and more complex
> life.
>


I don't know anyone who subscribes to a

> I subscribe to C

Indeed this is the mainstream position. The "guiding"
is performed by the process of selection (there
is a minority group that claims effective selection
requires an intelligent agent, however, their arguments
are weak to nonexistent).

- William Hughes

From: Tonico on 21 May 2010 10:30
On May 21, 3:36 pm, William Hughes <wpihug...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 21, 7:17 am, Graham Cooper <grahamcoop...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > there's 3 main theories,
> > a/ random chemical reactions building into more and more complex life
> > forms,
> > b/ "spontaneous" creation of complex lifeforms, and
> > c/ "guided" chemical reactions building into more and more complex
> > life.
>
> I don't know anyone who subscribes to a
>
> > I subscribe to C
>
> Indeed this is the mainstream position.  The "guiding"
> is performed by the process of selection  (there
> is a minority group that claims effective selection
> requires an intelligent agent, however, their arguments
> are weak to nonexistent).
>
>                       - William Hughes


I'm afraid Graham Cooper aka Herc means "guided" as by some god's
hands, kindda spiritual-holy hokus-pokus.
This is way sounder than natural selection since, of course, that god
already told Herc so.

Tonio
From: BOfL on 21 May 2010 10:53
On May 21, 8:36 pm, William Hughes <wpihug...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 21, 7:17 am, Graham Cooper <grahamcoop...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > there's 3 main theories,
> > a/ random chemical reactions building into more and more complex life
> > forms,
> > b/ "spontaneous" creation of complex lifeforms, and
> > c/ "guided" chemical reactions building into more and more complex
> > life.
>
> I don't know anyone who subscribes to a
>
> > I subscribe to C
>
> Indeed this is the mainstream position.  The "guiding"
> is performed by the process of selection  (there
> is a minority group that claims effective selection
> requires an intelligent agent, however, their arguments
> are weak to nonexistent).
>
>                       - William Hughes

"I AM", about which, there are no arguments.

BOfL
From: BOfL on 21 May 2010 10:55
On May 21, 10:30 pm, Tonico <Tonic...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 21, 3:36 pm, William Hughes <wpihug...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 21, 7:17 am, Graham Cooper <grahamcoop...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > there's 3 main theories,
> > > a/ random chemical reactions building into more and more complex life
> > > forms,
> > > b/ "spontaneous" creation of complex lifeforms, and
> > > c/ "guided" chemical reactions building into more and more complex
> > > life.
>
> > I don't know anyone who subscribes to a
>
> > > I subscribe to C
>
> > Indeed this is the mainstream position.  The "guiding"
> > is performed by the process of selection  (there
> > is a minority group that claims effective selection
> > requires an intelligent agent, however, their arguments
> > are weak to nonexistent).
>
> >                       - William Hughes
>
> I'm afraid Graham Cooper aka Herc means "guided" as by some god's
> hands, kindda spiritual-holy hokus-pokus.
> This is way sounder than natural selection since, of course, that god
> already told Herc so.
>
> Tonio- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

And you told him thats not the case. That makes you powerful dont you
think?

BOfL
From: Syd M. on 21 May 2010 16:34
On May 21, 4:17 pm, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 21 May 2010 12:43:27 -0700 (PDT), Graham Cooper
>
> <grahamcoop...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >bwahahaha
>
> >you atheists don't like the word random.  natural selection is a
> >random process,
>
> No! And this is where you godders fail time and again.
>
> Natural selection is *not* random. Natural selection always favours the
> better design.
>
> Really, does your religion allow you to lie, or are you really that stupid?
>

Both.

PDW

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